Talk:Fender Princeton

Princeton Chorus

There's also a Princeton Chorus. Fixing To Fix An Old Princeton Chorus --ozzmosis (talk) 02:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Princeton 112 Plus

among others, should expand on this article a bit, explain the differences and dates of release of the various Princeton models. For example: "brown face" "Black face" "silver face" "Princeton 65" "Princeton solid state DPS" "Princeton 112 Plus" "Princeton Recording" as usual the manufacturer has gone to town with the Princeton brand. great observation about Mesa Boogie and Carlos Santana here, kudos to the author; though I'd love to see a citation on that ;-). Cheers! Richardsidler (talk) 15:17, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

about the Chorus

I don't have my notes handy, but none of this should be too difficult to source, I'm going to note it before I forget AGAIN, and it might meantime be of interest to Fender fans.

The early version of the Princeton Chorus was built at the Sunn plant, which Fender had moved to Lake Oswego. These (and related solid-state amps) may be identified by serial numbers that begin "LO-".

The "red knob" thing is a myth. The intent had been to make the cosmetics closer to those of the M-80 Series (also produced at Lake Oswego) intended for a younger customer base playing "crunchier" music. The electronics are identical. The main result is that the "black knob" version is often a steal. I imagine that based off the present WP misinformation, somewhere there's people looking at used PC's, seeing black knobs, and cluelessly ignoring the "Made in USA" labels.

People hated the red knobs at the time; Fender fixed the problem by replacing the knobs. Aside from that, the only difference is that the "black knob" uses the classic silver/gray grillcloth, the "red knob" having the charcoal cloth shading it closer to the M-80s (which eventually used outright black cloth). You will occasionally see a PC with black knobs and dark cloth.

The red knobs/dark cloth also appeared on other models, such as the Pro 185 (1989 until 1993 when the classic colors reappeared).
Weeb Dingle (talk) 01:14, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

how many controls? a bit more on the evolution please...

I know it's difficult to nail down the exact history when old CLF was often making changes to designs while they were already being produced on the shop floor, but this para is just a mess of contradiction currently:

"no controls at all, not even a power switch...... The amplifier had a single volume control and a simple low-pass tone control to control treble response. The Princeton circuits up through 5C2 differed from the Fender Champ in having two versus one preamp stage (6SC7 dual-triode vs 6SJ7 pentode) and added the tone control that was absent in the Champs....."

the para also uses, without explanation, the fender design revision codes ('5C2' &c); a line should/could be added about this before peppering the article with them like some sort of if-you-know-you-know reference. duncanrmi (talk) 14:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]