Talk:Eric Volz
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Birthdate
[edit]Not that we necessarily need to publish it, but I was trying to figure it out for the Nashville Natives chart. So far I only know that he was born between April 5, 1979 and February 28, 1980. Kaldari 03:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Narrowed it down some more: April 20, 1979 - May 20, 1979 (apparently he's a Taurus). Updating birth year... Kaldari 03:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Updated birthday category too. 64.180.5.239 22:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
May 19, 1979 is Eric Stanley Volz birthdate.
- A citation needs to be added to this information per WP:BLP. momoricks (make my day) 00:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
POV
[edit]This article has serious POV problems. Sources are available but that doesn't mean putting "Volz is the victim of anti-gringo sentiment" is NPOV, it is an opinion of Cooper. Also, how is "Friends and supporters in both countries insist he is innocent" relevant to wikipedia? - LaNicoya •TALK• 13:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- It is not the opinion of Anderson Cooper, the Anderson Cooper program covered the controversy so it is extremely relevant. I am not sharing your view that the article has POV problems as the article itself makes no judgments on innocence or guilt, it is merely a collection of sources reflecting the controversy surrounding his prosecution. Volz is not notable simply for his prosecution but for the controversy surrounding it. Therefore the sources charging his innocence are relevant to wikipedia. As long as the article makes it clear that these are the opinions of critics and not those of wikipedia, NPOV should be satisfied. —Ocatecir Talk 13:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- This article does have POV problems. It's not 'merely a collection of sources', it's a collection of sources that supports the view that this man's innocent. Just because you agree with it, does not make it objective. It's heavily one-sided and pro-American. Most of these kind of articles seem to be. Just look at an article like Natalee Holloway. The main 'suspect' in this case has not been prosecuted, but still this article seems to be biased against him. Despite this similarity between both articles, a big difference in tone.(213.10.46.8 (talk) 19:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC))
- If you have reliable sources that support your claims, feel free to add them. Otherwise your accusations have no merit.— OcatecirT 00:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- As if the sources for this article are reliable! But I'm not even complaining about the sources used, I'm only saying that the article is one-sided by using certain sources. It's not my article, so I'm not going to do anything about it. I have the right to criticize this article and for my criticism to be taken seriously. And BTW, can I also put my opinion as a 'critic' in the article, I think it's just as important as the opinion of the supporters of Eric Volz (whoever they may be).(213.10.46.8 (talk) 12:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC))
Absolutely. Since when did journalists opinions make for media stories, it was actually well sourced on the programme, SqueakBox 21:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
After reading this article, I of course came away with the impression that Eric was innocent. The case isn't that clear, though. I have been there before and after this murder happened, have known Doris (albeit only cursory), and her friend who discovered her. Her opinion was clearly a suspicion of Mr. Volz, which of course doesn't prove anything either. This lengthy page presents a completely different POV, or in other words, is biased in contrast to this article: "Doris Ivania Jimenez". Some of the arguments presented therein seem to have merit. It should be up to the reader to form an opinion, but at least the WP article should leave both conclusions equally likely, as AFAIK the truth hasn't been found out. Wolfgang Oertl 22:36, 18 Jun 2017 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]I ran the article through the Checklinks tool and found several citation dead links; however, most of the external links still work, so an attempt should be made to use those as citations and archive them using WebCite to avoid any more dead links. I will try to work on this when I can, but help from other editors is warmly welcomed. momoricks (make my day) 01:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]We claim in the opening that he was wrongly convicted but the ref we use, from the New York Times, and certainly sympathetic to Volz, makes no mention of a wrongful conviction. Indeed it is clear from the article itself says two of the judges had ruled that he probably did not kill the victim. This is not enough to justify us saying wrongful conviction. ♫ RichardWeiss talk contribs 23:26, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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