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Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 22:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
GA Review
[edit]I'll review this article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 00:45, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- One or two minor points of correction, which will be outlined below.
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction (N/A), and list incorporation (N/A):
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- Almost completely.
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Should only be a short hold. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:24, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Pass or Fail:
Source and image review
[edit]- All Tolkien references appear to be accurate.
- Noted.
- Spotcheck of accessible sources:
- 3 - good
- 6 - good
- 7 - good
- 8 - good
- 9 - good
- is 15 really necessary?
- Removed.
- 16 (Screen Rant): while listed as a marginally reliable source at WP:RSP, the link does not provide any evidence of the Groot character being linked to Tolkien.
- Removed.
- Most images are fine. Is File:Twisted Plumeria tree trunk overgrowing the steep stone stairs of Wat Phou temple, Champasak, Laos.jpg really necessary? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- To my eye the image supports the text and caption well.
Other issues
[edit]- "Treebeard, who (credibly) claims to be the oldest creature in Middle-earth" does Treebeard actually ever claim to be the oldest? Or is he just called such by Gandalf and Celeborn? See [1].
- Yes, they call him that. Fixed.
- Is there any analysis available linking Ents to the folklore mentioned (Dryads, Germanic groves, etc.)? Such as the David Day source?
- Removed the mention.
- "Treebeard boasted of their strength to Merry and Pippin; he said that Ents were much more powerful than Trolls, which Morgoth made in the First Age in mockery of Ents, as orcs were of elves"." there's a quotation mark at the end, but none preceding it.
- Removed.
- Could the description be made a subsection of the Internal history section? I feel like that would work better.
- Done.
- If so, you could incorporate some of the material from the passage beginning 'Ents are an old race...' into the First Age subsection.
- Done, and removed the overlap.
- I don't think the Erchamion is necessary.
- Gone.
- "Samwise Gamgee mentions his" --> mentions that
- Added.
- I assume the closing bracket after the Great Sea quotation was a typo.
- Removed.
- Could the "Ent-like creatures" subsection be renamed to 'cultural derivations' or similar? I feel that that better represents the contents. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done.
Nice! Promoting now. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Would it be worth making mention of Cad Goddeu as a possible source of inspiration? I don't know if Token ever mentioned it but I'd be surprised if Tolkien hadn't read some of the book of Taliesin. Even if, if he did draw on it as a source of inspiration, he used it with some different themes attached. Thedirefulspring (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2022 (UTC)