Talk:Elsevier/Archives/2020

Number of OA articles

User 73.220.114.160 claimed that in 2019 Elsevier published 370 "fully open access articles", whatever that means. Maybe that was meant as "journals" but it's unclear what definition is being used either way. According to DOAJ, there are only 5 journals published by Elsevier under CC-BY, so "fully OA" (in the sense of all the content of the journal being libre content). I see they have some 95, 141, 843 and 299 items published in 2019; even if not all of them are articles, I'd expect the total to be more than 370. As for the unfree journals published by Elsevier and listed in DOAJ, there are 345 (CC BY-NC-ND). Lens currently knows 9700 articles published by Elsevier and available in CC-BY.

Personally I find it quite tiresome to update these statistics in the article year by year. They're always debatable and I'm not sure what they add to the reader's knowledge. But if there's a suitable source I guess they can stay, I'm not sure WP:UNDUE applies. Nemo 16:42, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Gender Pay Gap Section

I've noticed some conversations around the 'Gender Pay Gap' section on this page. One editor reverted the section completely but it was added back to the page asking to take it to the talk page most recently.

Mentioning a gender pay gap in one specific area of a global business seems negligible in terms of having that information on a Wikipedia page. The editor that originally included this information seems to have a WP:COI with the journal. I suggest removing the information from the page. 24.160.218.90 (talk) 18:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand your argument for removing the information about the gender pay gap. The information seems well-sourced, and certainly a documented gender pay gap is a notable issue with a company that's the subject of a Wikipedia article. What do you mean by asserting that the editor who included this information seems to have a conflict of interest? If you have evidence of impropriety on that editor's part, this cannot be dealt with in this talk page. You could raise the issue at WP:ANI or WP:COIN. NightHeron (talk) 21:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

The editor doesn't seem to have a COI with Elsevier itself. I took a look at the source and it is legitimate, but the language on the page is not neutral, and isn't in the source. Working on cleaning up.108.81.244.173 (talk) 14:57, 11 December 2020 (UTC)