Talk:Electro-Theremin
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[edit]So does it or does it not sound like a "real" theremin? The first paragraph manages to make both claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.36.51.250 (talk) 07:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
- In that a Theremin can generate a waveform similar to a test tone generator - in this case a sine wave most likely - then the answer is yes.THX1136 (talk) 18:07, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Further research possibly?
[edit]While I do not dispute the information contained in this article, there is some conflict in the information publicly available concerning the instrument used for "Good Vibrations". In "Moog", a documentary made about Robert Moog, there is a segment where Walter Sear and Moog talk about an instrument that Moog created called "the Stringer".
Sear begins the conversation recounting the appearance of some "shaggy-haired rock and rollers" at his studio to purchase a Theremin. Mr. Sear provided a demonstration of the instrument. When the visitors tried to play it their attempt "fell flat; they weren't able to get anything" musical out of it. They explained to Sear they were used to "fretboards" being guitar players. Sear directed them to Bob Moog. Moog picks up the story telling of Steve Korthoff (sp?) arriving at the Moog facility to explain the Beach Boys need for a Theremin like instrument that would be easy to play. Bob put together a ribbon controller tied to an oscillator that could be played in a fairly easy way for Korthoff and the band. (Korthoff was involved in the Beach Boys "organization".) Moog pointed out that the instrument was used in the promo film for Good Vibrations, describing Mike Love playing the Stringer. Moog implies it was used in the recording of the song.
I was wondering if any of this conflicting information should be included in this article. I'm not certain I have the time to track down more sources or even how it should be incorporated - if, indeed, it should. Are there any thoughts on this subject? Thanks!THX1136 (talk) 14:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- There is nothing conflicting here – it is well-documented that the
TannerinElectro-Theremin was used on the recording, but not necessarily for their early live performances. The only mystery is why they sought a theremin and then a Stringer instead of asking Tanner to build another Electro-Theremin for their personal use.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 00:58, 20 November 2015 (UTC)- Nevermind, article says "The instrument was custom-built at Tanner's request." ... The reason is because Tanner did not actually build the instrument himself.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Does it follow then that Whitsell was the person who constructed the instrument for Tanner? That is at least implied in the article. Again, I do not dispute that Tanner played the instrument on the recordings. My perhaps unfounded concern is that the casual reader may be left with the impression that the instrument was used by the Beach Boys in live performance of songs where it was used on the recording. Moog and Sear's recollections could be important in that area. I recall seeing the "Stringer" used on the promo film with Love "playing" the instrument. I would agree with you on the question of why they didn't approach Tanner to obtain an instrument for themselves. Most likely not a real concern. Thanks for the input.THX1136 (talk) 16:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know — there's hardly any sources in the article. But they're out there if you look. [1].--Ilovetopaint (talk) 17:57, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Does it follow then that Whitsell was the person who constructed the instrument for Tanner? That is at least implied in the article. Again, I do not dispute that Tanner played the instrument on the recordings. My perhaps unfounded concern is that the casual reader may be left with the impression that the instrument was used by the Beach Boys in live performance of songs where it was used on the recording. Moog and Sear's recollections could be important in that area. I recall seeing the "Stringer" used on the promo film with Love "playing" the instrument. I would agree with you on the question of why they didn't approach Tanner to obtain an instrument for themselves. Most likely not a real concern. Thanks for the input.THX1136 (talk) 16:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Nevermind, article says "The instrument was custom-built at Tanner's request." ... The reason is because Tanner did not actually build the instrument himself.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]- https://web.archive.org/web/20130209064845/https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/arts/music/paul-tanner-musician-with-good-vibrations-dies-at-95.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20150401204702/https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-paul-tanner-20130207-story.html
- https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/02/17/the-electro-theremin-good-vibration/dXKwwpblvQVs7I2MZX3ZoI/story.html
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- https://dangerousminds.net/comments/good_vibrations_paul_tanner_inventor_of_the_electro-theremin_r.i.p
- https://www.tompolk.com/Tannerin/Tannerin.html
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- https://www.matrixsynth.com/2005/08/tannerin-and-theremin-like-devices.html
- https://ww1.namm.org/library/oral-history/paul-tanner
- https://oralhistory.library.ucla.edu/catalog/21198-zz0008zr1b
- Recordings, artifacts, and memoribilia collected by Paul Ora Warren "Lightnin'" Tanner (1917-2013)
- Strange Vibrations: The Evolution of the Theremin