Talk:Electorates of the Australian states and territories

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Total number

How many in total are there? --Astrokey44 11:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

93 in NSW, 89 in QLD, 88 in VIC, 57 in WA, 47 in SA, 25 in NT, 3 in ACT, 5 in Tasmania (identical to Federal divisions) = 407. This doesn't count past ones which have articles now or may in the future. Orderinchaos78 11:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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explaning size in order to explain what is "electorates of the ......."

Is size, the word very undefined, a measurement of population or area of territory. I think this article is attempting to say that there are laws applicable to this identification for states and another for territories and neither apply to national government? That is not exactly clear in the article. Then it proceeds to tell us what it means, if you really can do that with a faulty foundation.

The US tradition and what is in Australia may share similarities but they de not always help define the other because they are different. Reading the article only calls to mind further questions in order to attempt to understand. "Size" does not indicate to you just what is being measured. Area and population does. What is what?2605:E000:9149:A600:A57D:60C2:F63A:B168 (talk) 04:14, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the fact that you raised this here after my revert. My concern with the above is that using "area" might suggest a sort of geographic area to some readers. I wonder if there is a way that we can clarify size without using that term. Either way, the current sentence seems to have been written a bit hastily: "The area of a state electoral district is dependent upon the Electoral Acts in the various states and vary in area between them." Wouldn't the area of a district only depend upon the Acts in its own state? If that's not true, the matter deserves more explanation. And isn't the second use of area redundant? EricEnfermero (Talk) 04:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Having as my experience that of the US, there are electorates (more commonly called districts) that are preliminarily established by a study group then voted on by the appropriate legislative body. If we concern ourselves with State and National gov't levels then the state government would study, recommend and then vote on districts for that state government but not the national level. Congress studies, recommends and then votes on districts that are represented in the national government. Typically, those districts are established off of the 10 year census. That fundamentally is not clear in the article. It seem intent on getting by with some sweeping generalizations heaped onto itself. The article does not explain how these electorates are established except by law (what law and who's electorate), cannot explain if it is by area measurement or by population measurement. If you cannot define these three fundamental parts then you are basically kneading dough.

I have a feeling that electorates is another word for identifying a particular office in a particular area/district. Maybe that is an Australia thing. I do not know. That is what needs to be explained for those of us not familiar with Australia's election process.2605:E000:9149:A600:A81B:CD60:4C2F:8CA (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]