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Aubergine / Eggplant

By far the most common and standardised term for this plant in the English language is 'aubergine'. The Oxford English Dictionary, widely regarded as the most authoritative for describing common usage, lists this. The name of the article should be changed to 'Aubergine'. In the UK if someone said 'eggplant', people would think he meant some kind of plant that grows eggs; the term is not used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.134.151 (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, where there is a dispute the name of the article should follow the etymological history of the word, in this case leading to 'Aubergine' which is also the older word out of the two. It may also serve to educate a lot of Americans about the original term which will address and issue that someone has mentioned, that more people, proportionately, in the UK would have heard of the word 'eggplant' than Americans having heard 'aubergine'. Quee1797 (talk) 15:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Obviously it should be aubergine, but if you were to read further down the talk page, you'd see that this argument has already been done to death, and eggplant (yuk) won. Bazonka (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Aubergine is the french word for eggplant. Since an Englsh word exist, and is understood by everyone there is no reason to use the french word instead. As a non-English speaker myself I always have learnd the word "eggplant", not "Aubergine" which is obviously the french word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.59.166 (talk) 12:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I knew the word "aubergine" long before I ever heard anyone call the thing an eggplant, and I wondered what on earth they were on about when I first heard it. English is full of words taken from other languages; that's no excuse to start inventing replacement ones. Riedquat (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Eggplant should remain as the name since more people know it (there are more Americans than there are Brits). --IlyaV (talk) 02:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

So what? There are probably more counterfeit copies of Windows than genuine ones. Lots of people think "Play it again, Sam" is really a line from Casablanca. It doesn't make that true. If you want to be a language authority make your own, don't use someone else's and then claim you're correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.236.151 (talk) 21:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

"So what" is that the initial assertion made in this section is that "[b]y far the most common and standardised term for this plant in the English language is 'aubergine'". The OED, in fact, lists both "aubergine" and "eggplant", in fact it calls the aubergine the fruit of the eggplant. In North America, the word "aubergine" is not used, and, except among french speakers and people who know french cuisine, is unknown. Some reading. 71.87.23.22 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

move this page back

what is this "eggplant" nonsense? A plant like an egg? sounds disgusting. Someone move it back to its proper name Aubergine immediately please. --86.142.171.45 (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Aubergine is completely foreign to North America. As in it is NOT used. At all. Ever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.174.219 (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

This isn't North Americanpedia. In English its "aubergine". - Gennarous (talk) 12:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Why not use the scientific name which will not change and the common names can be used in the fist line of the article.--Lucy-marie (talk) 16:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia policy is common usage in general, and whatever the article was originally written in when it comes to national variations of English. Hardly anyone will know what the scientific name is - that's a suit no-one because you can't suit everyone type of proposal. The former guideline rules out the scientific name, and the latter (unfortunately) keeps it at eggplant, if the argument higher up the page is correct. --Riedquat (talk) 19:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

"Use the scientific name for the page" is a suit-everyone policy - an article based on the scientific name can then be redirected to from the various regional or country-specific names. It is hard to argue "common usage" when "common usage" is unprovable. The best "proof" of "Eggplant" being more common than "Aubergine" would be that "Eggplant" returns on the order of 8.5m google hits, while "Aubergine" returns roughly 6m. Hardly a sound argument. 68.166.5.249 (talk) 03:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Brinjal

I don't think it's proper to list Brinjal as one of the names of this plant. It's not called that in English, and we don't list the name in French, Norwegian or Tagalog. Opinions? DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually, eggplant in French is "aubergine" which we do list ;) I believe that in India, where the plant originates, and where English is one of the official languages, the word "Brinjal" is used. Also, from a google search, you can see the prevalence of this word used on English language webpages. I believe that we should keep it in the first sentence to cater to a more international audience, as I am convinced that the word "brinjal" is used by a significant number of English speakers and isn't simply a foreign word.-Andrew c ^[talk] 21:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm full of curry - yum yum. I've just had a meal from an Indian takeaway that contained "brinjal" - but I had no idea what it was, so I've come to Wikipedia to investigate. I guess "brinjal" sounds more exotic than aubergine. I guess it's a bit like when potatoes are used in Indian cooking, they're called "aloo". Bazonka (talk) 18:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

image problem?

Are the two pictures in the this section breaking the page for anyone else? Joyous! | Talk 14:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

sweating/degorging removes...?

Does anyone know what the chemical removed by sweating the eggplant is called? Everything just says that it's bitter and gives no more information. --Ryan Wise (talk) 06:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

origin of the name

It is called "eggplant" in the United States, Canada, and Australia because the first eggplants in those countries were purely ornamental and featured egg-shaped white and yellow fruit. Today this variety of eggplant is called "White Egg." http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/16-facts-about-eggplant-aubergine.html --Ryan Wise (talk) 06:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)