Talk:Efren Reyes/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: CR4ZE (talk · contribs) 04:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll have a look at this once my GAN closes (qpq). Thanks! — CR4ZE (T • C) 04:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Just a small update—I'll be looking at this within the next few days. Please {{ping}} me if I haven't got anything to you by Monday. — CR4ZE (T • C) 12:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

As promised,

Lead

• Are commas needed between honorifics and birth date?
  • I have no idea about honorifics, so I've removed them entirely, happy to do whatever is suitable. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• The lead states Reyes is considered one of pool's greatest players twice.
  • removed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Pool Career

• Section should be Pool career or perhaps just Career.
  • Indeed, career is fine. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "Reyes took on Pepito Dace ... played in rotation" - should be a comma after "which".
  • I've reworded. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "who ran their own event, they later acknowledged" - comma splice.
  • done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Personal life

• Are you able to negate choppy paragraphs and short sections? Personal life is a single sentence. OK if not possible.
  • Fixed into a longer section. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Accolades

• "In 1995 Billiards Digest Magazine" needs a comma.
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Major titles and achievements

• 1996/2000 PBT World and 1999 World Professional championships are unsourced.
  • Now sourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Images

• File:Efren Reyes in the World 9-Ball Pool Championship (2).jpg is published under CC BY 2.0 and File:Efren Reyes and fan.jpg is in the public domain.

References

• Looking good. Thank you for archiving.
  • Nothing worse than working on an article up to GAN, and then the site changes domain or dies. Been burned before! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Not familiar with this topic so I will have to trust that all cites are to RS.
• Spot-checked #31: published in 2019 not 2020, so perhaps a hard reading of ATT would mean the article text needs to reflect this.
  • I'll see if there's anything from this year (most competitions closed due to COVID, so no one is playing anything!), but changed to 2019. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Spot-checked #35: can you please point me to a quote that supports "Reyes is known for his highly unorthodox cueing technique"? Couldn't find anything upon a quick read-through.
  • I've changed this to how creative he is. I'd like to add something about his use of Backhand English (or Carabao); which is why he looks like he's playing every shot wrong, but I could only find [1] that really described it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Also spot-checked #8, #45, #47, #48: AGF on others.

Out of scope

I always offer suggestions to improve the article beyond the GA scope. You may consider these during or after the review (or not at all).

• Paragraphs in lead could be equally balanced.
  • Yeah, ideally there would be a little more on his technique and such, I'm doing some offline searches for such. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "$100k" is lower-cased in the lead but everywhere else is in upper-case.
  • Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "winning the event partnering Francisco Bustamante in 2006 and 2009" could be with partner Francisco Bustamanate or simply with.
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "Many analysts, fans, current and former players" - you could safely lose "current and former".
  • Agreed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "He cleaned the tables, and would sleep on the floor" - no need for a comma.
  • Changed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "the players played" is a little awkward.
  • Fixed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "U.S." is used before United States; I'd pick one and keep consistent.
  • I have fixed this. Bare in mind that the U.S. Open 9-ball championship is intentionally spelt wrong. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "Reyes claims to have earned $80,000" should be "once earned".
  • I don't really see what this does to change the meaning. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Check serial commas: "United States, Europe, and parts of Asia" is one example where a comma is not needed.
  • I have changed this, bare in mind serial commas are fine in articles, as long as they are consistent. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "Two years later, Efren Reyes"" - just call him Reyes.
  • Don Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "earning ¥20M ($170K) first prize" could be "and earning".
  • Fixed. 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "That following year" → "the following year".
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• "He partnered Francisco Bustamante" could be "partnered with" (not sure).
  • Original seems fine to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Could "veteran professional Billy Incardona"'s quote be paraphrased a little?
  • Well, just "professional", wouldn't be suitable, but "veteran player" might be better? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Make sure refs are bundled chronologically. Do "in the final and won 11–9" and "and an eight-ball bronze medal at the 2002 Asian Games" need three cites each?
  • Well, I don't see that this meets WP:CITEKILL, so seems fine to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
• Just double-check all redlinks could meet GNG.
  • They do. AZ Billiards is the only one I haven't already thought about making, but it's a notable website. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

On hold for as long as needed. That's it for now. Thanks! — CR4ZE (T • C) 04:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

• I've made the above chnges CR4ZE. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for tending to my comments, Lee Vilenski. Just some follow-up as I pass this. I meant shortening Billy Incardona's quote as some parts of it seem a little redundant, but I'll leave that up to you. The ref examples cited weren't necessarily a CITEKILL (non-policy) example, however they could be bundled. Note that except for material highly likely to be CHALLENGED, 1-2 refs to RS would be more than enough. Spot-checked a few refs (#35, #36, #67) again. I copy-edited a few things on my own but you may not like some of my changes, so feel free to change as you see fit. I don't see anything else that I would need to hold this up on, so:

Result

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Well done! — CR4ZE (T • C) 02:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)