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Also, I do not know how useful the long list of minor actors in the school/movement is, but somehow compacting it (by formatting or otherwise) would be probably help the article. TheSlowLife (talk ) 07:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC) [ reply ]
The deciphering of the Oracle bone script dealt a major blow against the Yigupai (Doubting Antiquity School), since the Oracle bones mostly agree with what the Shiji said about the Shang dynasty.
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http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/mulu/oracle.html
06:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
[ edit ] Title Early Chinese Religion: Part One: Shang Through Han (1250 BC-220 AD) (2 Vols)
Early Chinese Religion
Editors John Lagerwey, Marc Kalinowski
Publisher BRILL, 2008
ISBN 9004168354 , 9789004168350
http://books.google.com/books?id=Idhyr1hqS0kC&pg=PA48#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Philologick (talk ) 07:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC) [ reply ]
