Talk:Dora Carrington

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She was named Carrington, Dora Carrington. Is there any traceble source that justifies "de Hougton"??

Yes, give or take a typo.

Her parents were Samuel Carrington and Charlotte Eliza Houghton, who married in 1888

Carrington's name at birth was registered as Dora de Hoghton Carrington

'Hoghton' is probably a misprint, by the registrar or the indexer.

Her brother Noel gives her name as 'Dora de Houghton Carrington' in an appendix to Garnett's book.

There appears to be no evidence for 'Hougton' as such

109.145.108.66 (talk) 00:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Carrington As An Artist

Kudos to the article for pointing out a fact which was much neglected during Carrington's lifetime: she was a serious, productive artist with powerful talents. It's high time someone with the nerve and the credentials compared her body of work with that of, let's say, the somewhat overpraised Vanessa Bell.

In regard to Virginia Woolf's rather snarky evaluation of Carrington: it's important to remember (according to Woolf's biographer and nephew, Quentin Bell) that as a young woman Woolf had hoped to marry Lytton Strachey. But he rejected her, and lived on terms of loving friendship with Carrington until his death. Younggoldchip (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any source that supports these assertions: "In fact, her work was not considered art at all. It featured Victorian-style pictures which were made from coloured tinfoil and paper."? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkalm (talk • contribs) 02:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Carrington did both decorative and serious art. In Quentin Bell's biography of Virginia Woolf, he wrote that the Bloomsbury attitude toward Carrington was colored by classism. Carrington came from a middle-class family. The Stephen and Strachey families belonged to the literary elite. Many of them resented her talent. They simply found it impossible to admit that someone with her unglamorous background could be equal, or even better, in artistic achievement than their own Vanessa Bell or Duncan Grant. Yet she won scholarships and prizes, including at the Slade, throughout her young career. When she joined Lytton Strachey at Ham Spray, she did paint walls and furniture in beautiful designs. But she also continued to paint seriously. Her landscapes and her portraits, especially of Strachey, are among the most accomplished and compelling of her generation. The arc of real appreciation for her work has risen too slowly. But its movement is continuing, and upward. Younggoldchip (talk) 16:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoline Morrell

What's the basis for the statement that she is known to have had an affair with Lady Ottoline Morrell? There's no suggestion of this at all in Gretchen Gerzina's biography of Carrington. --rossb (talk) 09:22, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A good question

Lady Ottoline was added to this article on 1 June 2012: the justification was that the relationship was mentioned in the article on her. However, the article actually says that '[Lady Ottoline]'s lovers may have included . . . Carrington . . . '

Since this is distinctly flimsy Morrell is deleted until something more solid is available 109.145.109.91 (talk) 23:50, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Poisoning

My recent addition was undone: is there any reason why we cannot point out that there have been no studies yet on Carrington's potential for lead poisoning and its implications for her physical and mental health? Denahansen (talk) 20:37, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for undoing the addition which you made in good faith. The encyclopedia is about facts, not unproven potential links. If you can find a source that says lead poisoning is suspected, that will work better. Wire723 (talk) 16:25, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sexuality

This person is cited as a lesbian on List of suicides of LGBTQ people. I was going to try to incorporate this into this article but I'm unsure of where best to place this, especially given I don't have access to the source cited on the aforementioned page. Help and thoughts from others on this matter would be appreciated. Helper201 (talk) 20:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I searched to find sources, but all I found was saying she is bi [1] or of 'hybrid' sexuality. LIrala (talk) 00:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input LIrala. Do you have any access to the source on list of suicides of LGBTQ people that calls her a lesbian? What do you think we should do regarding the placement of such information on this page? I'm fine with doing this, I'm just not sure where it would best fit. I'd imagine either within the "Career and personal life" section (but I'm not sure where in here), or perhaps as a subsection of this section, or in its own separate section. I'd be interest to hear your thoughts. Helper201 (talk) 19:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't access it either. If I find a way I will tell you. While for the lesbian part, it seems they used the word lesbian differently at that time, while the first link I put here vehemently rejects her lesbian status, I do agree with the Foucault's POV that there are anachronism with the attraction exclusivity the words homosexuality or lesbian currently carry. That way, she could be labeled as both bisexual and lesbian. There is even an old note at category:lesbians addressing double-identification, but I wonder if that's obsolete as I noticed the common practice is to remove inconsistencies, at least nowadays I guess with new editors or new understanding. LIrala (talk) 19:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]