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A fact from Diamond Lake, Illinois appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that future American presidential candidate George McGovern was a student pastor at a church in Diamond Lake, Illinois?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Diamond Lake, Illinois.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 17:18, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that future American presidential candidate George McGovern was a student pastor at a church in Diamond Lake, Illinois?
- Source: https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/george-mcgovern-recalled-as-a-pastor/article_b9eb3000-e9c6-5d4f-98e5-fec1d1156655.html
  "As a student pastor at Diamond Lake Community Methodist Church for parts of 1946 and 1947, McGovern early on demonstrated a knack for engaging and connecting with others"
  "But it was World War II that interrupted his studies at Dakota Wesleyan University and led him to Diamond Lake."
  https://newspapers.com/article/the-camden-news-mcgovern/150433994/ (syndicated Associated Press)
  "The breakfast was held in a church whose pastor, John S. Jury, had been a student minister at a Methodist church in Diamond Lake, Ill., a year or so before McGovern became a student pastor there while studying for the ministry as a young man"
- ALT1 ... that Jack Benny, Glenn Miller, and Lawrence Welk all performed at a dance pavilion in Diamond Lake, Illinois?
  - Source: Mundelein, Arcadia Publishing, pp. 94: "The Ray Brothers hosted numerous stars of the day as guests, including Jack Benny playing at the pavilion, as did Glenn Miller and Lawrence Welk."
    (The full quote on page 94 of the book clarifies that the dance pavilion is in Diamond Lake)
- ALT2: ... that a bar in Diamond Lake, Illinois, was described by the Daily Herald as "the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues" in 2008?
  - Source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/26987615/ "They introduced darts, real ones, to the Irish Mill, which later became the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first one. A bit nervous and I'm hoping I'm doing everything correctly. Some of the sources come from my work in Mundelein, Illinois (especially the education one), but not including it still makes the prose large enough :)

5x expanded by SeymourHolcomb (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

SeymourHolcomb (talk) 19:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: @SeymourHolcomb: Hi Seymour, and welcome to Wikipedia and further to DYK! No need to be nervous, we're a pretty chill bunch. Offline sources are fine, as we assume good faith. Great job on inline sourcing. I fixed a minor typo in ALT2; all hooks are good (although I favor ALT0 or ALT1, as I believe they will appeal to the largest audience).

One small thing: the infobox photo caption calls the church "Vision Church" but the prose calls it "Diamond Lake Church". A quick Google seems to favour calling it "Vision Church", so can this be changed in the body of the article?

I really don't see any other issues with the article to get it ready for DYK, I just fixed a few minor things, so great job for your first go at it! – T C Memoire 15:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the photo so the "Vision Church" disrepency won't be shown. The tense for "Diamond Lake Church" is ambiguous because I could not find concrete proof that Vision Church and Diamond Lake Church are the exact same, despite being Methodist churches on the exact same building. SeymourHolcomb (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that yes, they are the same church, but without using synth (comparing the map on the "Our Gem" PDF and the location on Google Maps), but I am looking into a source to confirm the name change. SeymourHolcomb (talk) 19:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SeymourHolcomb: Works for me. You're right, they probably are the same church, we just need someone to say it! Going to give this one the approval tick. I did also create a commons category for Diamond Lake, so all photos can nicely be consolidated there. – T C Memoire 09:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]