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Orphaned references in Des Quinze Lake

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Des Quinze Lake's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "orrpb":

From Ottawa River: "Historical Water Levels Summary, Ottawa River at Carillon". Ottawa River Regulation Planning Board. Retrieved 2008-02-24.
From Lake Timiskaming: Ottawa River Regulation Planning Board - Principal Reservoirs Current Water Levels and System Constraints Archived 2008-12-05 at the Wayback Machine

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:48, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 December 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Des Quinze Lake be renamed and moved to Lac des Quinze.

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Des Quinze Lake → Lac des Quinze – Lac des Quinze, literally "Lake of the Fifteen". So "Des Quinze Lake" is equivalent to "Of the Fifteen Lake", it might as well not be translated, just like Lac des Chicots article. BigBullfrog (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:UE. 162 etc. (talk) 03:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just as "Rivière du Loup" is acceptable, "Du Loup River" is not. This name violates WP:OR, I can hardly find "Des Quinze Lake" on Google. BigBullfrog (talk) 04:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rivière-du-Loup is known as such in English-language reliable sources.[1][2] Your proposal cites no sources.

If there is no established usage in English-language sources, then per WP:UE, we translate the name - hence "Des Quinze Lake". 162 etc. (talk) 20:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Lac des Quinze" can also be found in English-language reliable sources.[3][4] --BigBullfrog (talk) 09:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:CANFRENCH. The established consensus of WikiProject Canada, when it comes to topics relating to Quebec, is not "if there is no established usage in English-language sources, then translate the name" — it's "if there is no established usage in English-language sources, then leave the original French name as is instead of inventing an original research translation yourself". But regardless, the established usage in English-language sources here is the original French name rather than a reversed word order, as it's not even remotely difficult to find English-language pages with the "Lac des Quinze" form in them — and, in fact, it's much easier to find that than it is to find any evidence of English-language sources calling it "Des Quinze Lake" at all. Bearcat (talk) 16:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that local consensus does not override site policy. See WP:CONLEVEL.

If "it's not even remotely difficult to find English-language pages with the "Lac des Quinze" form in them", this is the time to cite them. 162 etc. (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]