Talk:Deaths in 2025
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Deaths requiring reliable sources for inclusion in article
[edit]Better sources needed (please supply a media source for claim)
- January – Noreen Riols, 98, British novelist and spy during World War II (sourced on X here)
- January – Derek Parker, 92–93, British writer and broadcaster (sourced on X here)
Czechoslovakia
[edit]@Huferpad: and @Noel baran:, you have both changed the entry for Ján Zachara to say "Slovak" rather than Czechoslovak. As the top of the page says, entries are supposed to be listed by country of citizenship at birth
. Please do not remove the mention of Czechoslovakia, Zachara was not born in the modern state of Slovakia. Di (they-them) (talk) 20:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- That remark means that if, say, a German person was born as French, he will be listed as French-born German and not just German; it does not mean that the country of citizenship at birth is listed as it was if it changes status or name. You can see in the January page alone there already are 4 other entries (and countless more in the previous years pages) that are listed as Russian, Ukrainian and Slovenian instead of Soviet, Soviet and Jugoslav. I agree that the remark may be phrased in a confusing way but it's made clearer by the following entry, which says "subsequent nationality", so in Zachara's case it should at least be Czechoslovak-born Slovak. However, by consensus, we never list that in such way when the subsequent country is a successor state of the previous one (i.e., we don't say Soviet-born Russian or Jugoslav-born Slovenian but just Russian and Slovenian). • Huferpad talk 21:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Czechoslovakia is not generally used for demonyms in the modern day because Czechoslovakia does not exist in the modern day. The constituent former states (now countries) do, so that's what is generally used and accepted for use. Ref (chew)(do) 23:00, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
This issue has been raised before... and to reiterate once more... The stated policy of including "citizenship at birth" is at variance with the enforced policy of ignoring formerly-extant citizenships.
There is clearly a need to change either one or the other so that they both match!! 108.41.55.190 (talk) 21:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
SDNONE edit wars
[edit]As I stated/predicted maybe a week ago there has been an addition and a deletion of a "short description" already in 2025. I once more request that there be a
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added by where the SD would be to prevent recurrences! 108.41.55.190 (talk) 21:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you for the advice! Renewal6 (talk) 21:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)