Talk:David and Stephen Flynn

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NPOV Issue

@SabLovesSunshine - i've reverted your changes. The inclusion of primary journal material to suggest that the twins were right is WP:OR.

per WP:BRD the previous version is the long-standing version, and the removal of info about a controversial podcast episode is probably incorrect. In general, as long as their are multiple sources discussing a negative episode in a WP:PUBLICFIGURE's life, we can include info about it. We also should not equate WP:FALSEBALANCE with WP:NPOV. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 18:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to your comments on FTN:

1. “Medical Misinformation” -> “Health Advice and Public Response”

The health advice was wrong and condemned by medical specialists.

2. Peer-reviewed studies and mainstream media articles

Unless there is a source that connects peer-reviewed studies to what Flynn was saying, inclusion of this material is WP:SYNTH in the article.

3. Efforts to clarify the Flyns’ acknowledgment of errors

The apology is noted in the original long-standing version, alongside the reactions. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify

In April 2023 they issued an apology for an episode of their podcast which they admitted misled and misinformed listeners. In the show, their guest Zach Bush made incorrect claims

Does the April 2023 apology in the first sentence refer to the show with Zach Bush in the second sentence? If yes, it should be "Zach Bush had made incorrect claims". If no, the two sentences should not be in the same paragraph. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it refers to the show with Zach Bush. SabLovesSunshine (talk) 08:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs more basic information

As is often the case, I think one of the reasons the medical misinformation section may seem out of place is the lack of basic relevant information which makes the misinformation section predominate excessively, plus the article is just plain confusing to people who've never heard of them before. At this is me, I'll give simple example. Our article currently says "as a result have been nicknamed "Hummus Jedward" and "Vegward"". But why? I mean the Jedward bit is explained, but why vegward? My guess was they are vegetarians or at least primarily promote a plant based diet. And indeed there's a source headline which suggests they might even be vegans. But this isn't explained anywhere in our article. Likewise where did the nickname Happy Pear come from? I guess it probably came from their business, given the age of it, but this isn't stated and it's hardly uncommon businesses are named after existing nicknames. I assume these details must be in sources otherwise I question their notability. Even what their business does is unknown other than what you can guess from its name. Nil Einne (talk) 05:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]