Talk:Cortana (virtual assistant)

I'm not good at writing Wikipedia articles...

And as I don't want to leave a mess I want to request a more experienced writer to make a background or history section for Microsoft's Cortana based on (http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/cortana-041614.aspx) from Microsoft Research telling about the creation of Cortana dating back in 2009. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

microsoft-cortana.com

Hi.

Just a notice. Whois results indicate that this website is not owned by Microsoft. Please exercise caution.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:15, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes I said that it's fine to put that link even if it's not owned by Microsoft. The download is not malware it's coming from official Microsoft download page to the user.--Corti45 (talk) 12:03, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

The download is genuine from Microsoft www.windowsphone.com . I don't see any problem with that. --Corti45 (talk) 12:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

No, it is not fine. If it is not the official website, per Wikipedia:External link policy, we are not interested in it. Besides, the web site and the IP address advertising it are both from Istanbul, Turkey, according to whois. And I did detect malware in it.

You are engaged in edit warring. I had warned you once. The prudent thing to do was to stick with WP:BRD until a third person check the website. But I do think you are affiliated with the IP address.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Siri

I believe the word Siri should appear in this article, as Cortana is clearly influenced by it and is competing with it.

I wrote "Some people see it as Microsoft's alternative to Siri" and gave a reference. This was reverted. I agree "Some people" is not the best phrasing, I do not want to start an edit war, and I'd support any phrasing, but I believe ignoring Siri is wrong.

What do you think?

עמיר רהט (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@עמיר רהט: Is there any sound reference directly supporting this viewpoint? I think we should, at least, have a "See also" at the end of this article, listing several other related products. As for the edit reversion you're encountering, I guess Codename Lisa would like to join the discussion. :D --Kou Dou 09:18, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. When I said "weasel word", I wasn't nitpicking on some word. (It's not worth the trouble in Wikipedia; the benevolent way of just fixing it works for the best.) Weasel words give the impression of a source being in existence while there is none. Mary Jo Foley mentions the word "Siri" twice and it the second instance, she uses it as a synecdoche for personal digital assistant; there is no evidence that any person or people believe such thing, let alone their opinion have due weight.

As for being influenced by Siri, that's the old child's quarrel of who stole an idea from who, in which a Wikipedian must not partake. We do know that Siri did not influence Cortana for sure because the original Cortana of Halo predates Siri; before that, there is an entire fleet of fictional digital assistants in literature and fiction, like HAL 9000 and Jarvis. Even the synthesized speech technology of Siri didn't have any influence because Microsoft have been integrating it into Windows since Windows 2000. And there was an experimental personal digital assistant for MSN Messenger too.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 12:42, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Corrections to the article

I fixed two things in the article: 1) the use of "NBL" instead of "NBA" 2) The use of "metres" instead of "meters" (the latter one is correct because we're talking about a product developed by Microsoft, an American, not British, company, based in Redmond, WA, USA). I hope my corrections do not make editors angry. I just think that if a company like Microsoft is American the article should avoid Briticisms like writing "metres" instead of "meters". --Marce 10:45, 6 February 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fandelasketchup (talk • contribs)

I added those mistakes there, I'm not quite familiar with U.S. American sports culture so I accidentally mistyped it, thank you for correcting it. As for the the latter I'd state that Microsoft though originally an American company is quite an international company, in fact ovrt 50% of its employees are European (especially since the addition of the Finnish Microsoft Mobile Oy), so my European English is not as misplaced as you'd think, but your chauvinism isn't completely misplaced either as Wikipedia was also founded by an American. :-P

Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 01:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Cortana is not available in Australia, proven by http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/cortanas-regions-and-languages this article. I don't want to change the page because I'm not good at it, but if someone could, that'd be great :) TheScottymo (talk) 01:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Need a footnote

Hello editors,

Please help me add a footnote to several sentences, beginning with "Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014." What I tried to add was the following code:

Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014.<ref group=note>Cortana in non-English versions are only available through the [[Preview for Developers]] program at this time.</ref>

Cortana has been released in several countries since its launch including the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Canada, Australia, India, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy and is expected to come to more countries over time.<ref group=note />

{{reflist|group=note}}

And the result should be the following:

Users in certain countries in Europe can also choose to opt-in to the alpha for the French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of Cortana as of August 2014.

Cortana has been released in several countries since its launch including the United States, the United Kingdom, China, Canada, Australia, India, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy and is expected to come to more countries over time.

Under Notes and References should be

I do not know why the note did not appear after the second sentence. I plan to apply the footnote to several other places within the article, but if I can't do so here, I'm sure I can't do so there. Can anyone please help?

Thank you! <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Sure, Some Gadget Geek, do you have sources for the information that you'd like to put in notes?

By the way, there's another way to do notes {{efn| }} for the note and {{notelist}} under the Notes section - as an option that's a little easier to work with.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Carole, and thank you for your response. My source for the footnote is as follows:

Code for the source if you need it is as follows:

<ref name=AlphaInfo>{{cite news|title=Cortana alpha for Windows Phone 8.1|url=http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/how-to/wp8/cortana/cortana-alpha|accessdate=18 March 2015|work=Windows Phone How-to|agency=Microsoft|date=5 December 2014}}</ref>

Your help is much appreciated! <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Some Gadget Geek, I'm  Done and closing the request. This page is still on my watchlist, though, so if there's something that needs tweaked, leave me a note and I'll be back.--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Windows 10

When Windows 10 launches I want to add the template "Microsoft Windows Components" underneath the article, but I was wondering if I should wait until the official R.T.M. or could do it right now, anyhow Microsoft Cortana is a built-in component of Windows 10 so eventually Microsoft Cortana will be mentioned in the template, but I wonder if it's best to wait for later as product announcements don't translate to reality, but as Windows Holographic is mentioned I wondered if moving it in a little early would fall under WP:CRYSTAL or not. Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:45, 30 April 2015 (UTC) (Alternatively Namlong618)

Requested move 11 August 2015

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn by nominator. Clearly there won't be consensus for this move yet, though I still think it's worth considering in the future. Cúchullain ^t/c 12:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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• Cortana (software) → Cortana
• Cortana → Cortana (disambiguation)

– It seems clear that Microsoft's Cortana personal assistant has emerged as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the name Cortana. It receives several times the page views of all potentially ambiguous articles combined: it was viewed 156,286 times in the last 90 days under its old name, and 26k in less than two weeks under the name Cortana (intelligent personal assistant). In comparison, there were 45015 for Cortana (Halo) and 1037 for Cortana (gastropod), as well as 13517 for Curtana (which is sometimes spelled "Cortana", but much less frequently than "Curtana"). It seems pretty clear this article is what a large majority of our readers are looking for. Cúchullain ^t/c 19:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose - Given that this just came out it may very well be a blip in views, rather than a lasting thing. I think it's premature to make that call right now, especially since Cortana (Halo) has over twice the page views in the past 60 days, compared to this article, 44687 compared to only 26064. Per day views seem to be a bit larger for this article but again, this is a brand new software and it's too soon to see if that's a lasting thing. - Aoidh (talk) 22:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose - long-term significance is questionable. Blank Space, another article which got moved while still recent, has its page views significantly higher than any other topic with the name, and currently still is the primary topic. This page lacks the large difference that would defy WP:RECENTISM. If anything, a release of a new Halo game may also create a short-term bump in views of Cortana (Halo). I would suggest the nom to maybe wait a few months to see if the software remains the primary topic. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 02:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

• Strong oppose WP:RECENTISM the fictional character is still has more longterm significance than the assistance software, under Microsoft topics. The Cortana assistant was only recently released. -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose stay put, or move to Microsoft Cortana per WP:NATURAL if (software) is offending anyone. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:48, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:RECENT and the long-term significance of Cortana (gastropod). Zarcadia (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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Chinese is not a language

Dialects need to be mutually intelligible for them to be considered the same language, also "European Spanish" is a better term to adhere than "Castilian Spanish" as "Castilian" is also the WP:COMMONNAME for Argentino Spanish, the list could be alright, but I'd change "dialects" to "regional variants" and replace "Chinese" with "Mandarin Chinese" and since Mainland Chinese (see: Standard Mainland Mandarin) is different from Taiwanese Mandarin the latter could be added separately if Microsoft would ever implement it there (note that I'm not pleading on the basis of WP:CRYSTAL but on the fact that these are in fact different dialects of the same Mandarin Chinese language and not a mythical Chinese language as by the same logic French, Castilian, Catalan, Italian, and Portuguese are all "dialects" of the same Latin language (romance)).

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 19:55, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Undid revision 696922021 by 213.114.9.93

Hi guys! The reason I undid the edit is due to Cortana fitting the description of an intelligent personal assistant. Also, Apple's Siri and Amazon's Alexa do not have so-called in front. If you have any objections, please include them below and make sure to ping me. I will reply when I have a change (which could be up to 48 hours). Happy Holidays!

Daylen (talk) 23:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Map error

The map contained in this article of supported regions includes the Chinese Republic which is not true, only Mainland Mandarin (Putonghua - Official language) is supported, Taiwanese Mandarin (Guoyü - National language) is still unavailable as one is unable to set their region to "Traditional Chinese (Taiwan)" and get Cortana(, yet). --58.187.167.178 (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

cortana

why its doesent work Cortana in my window 10 pc pls cam n u help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.247.77.228 (talk) 06:08, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

This isn't the place to ask. WP:NOTFORUM Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 09:19, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Region box

As per WP:SOURCE please add sources to every addition regarding new languages and/or language variants and/or platform availability of Cortana in that region otherwise the unsourced material may be removed or marked with "Citation needed". Thank you.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Add mention that microsoft made it impossible for many users to disable cortana?

Shouldn't this article include mention of the win 10 anniversary edition removing almost all users ability to disable cortana?TeeTylerToe (talk) 04:42, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Reaction to Cortana from public

Is there a need to report the negative reaction to this program? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panama1958 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

• As long as it's reported in WP:RS, it improves the article to do so; it adds balance, keeping things to a WP:NPOV, and prevents the page from becoming an unqualified endorsement (which would be inappropriate). FalconK (talk) 19:09, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
• Yes, there should be a public reception section. Maybe what percentage use it. Flight Risk (talk) 12:51, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 6 June 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Cortana. (non-admin closure). Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

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Cortana (software) → Cortana (virtual assistant) – The technology is called a "virtual assistant", and articles for other similar technologies (Facebook's M, Samsung's Bixby) are disambiguated with "virtual assistant". – Nick Mitchell 98 ^talk 01:10, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

• Support, more precise than software, although one might say Halo's Cortana is also a virtual assistant. Brandmeister^talk 19:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
• Move to Cortana, and move Cortana to Cortana (disambiguation). I think the Microsoft assistant is now a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. This is the clear winner on page views - more than all the others combined: [1]. I think it also wins common usage. On long-term significance, the British sword would be a contender, but I don't think that's very commonly called "Cortana". The article is at Curtana and that seems to be the predominant term for this.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
• Move to Cortana and move the dab page to Cortana (disambiguation). This is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the spelling "Cortana". Amakuru is correct; the British coronation sword Curtana is rarely if ever called "Cortana". "Cortana" is occasionally used for the legendary sword of Ogier the Dane, which is traditionally connected to Curtana, but it is just one of various spellings and Ogier's fictional sword isn't notable outside of him and the Curtana connection. The only reason the "Cortana" spelling is prominent today is that it happened to be the version used by Microsoft for Cortana (Halo) and subsequently the virtual assistant, which page views show is sought more than all other topics combined.--Cúchullain ^t/c 13:59, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

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Poof!

"Microsoft is killing off its Cortana app for iOS and Android in January" at the Verge. Link to MS notice "Changes to Cortana services". Article says notice is "for Cortana users in the UK, Canada, and Australia that reveals Cortana for iOS and Android is disappearing in at least those markets." So what about the rest of the world? Shenme (talk) 18:41, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Xbox One update

Sadly, Microsoft removed Cortana voice assistant from Xbox One:

• https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/24/20726367/microsoft-xbox-one-dashboard-home-design-update-cortana-removal
• https://www.reddit.com/r/cortana/comments/enqpiq/boy_what_a_complete_fucking_botch_by_microsoft/

(I hope they don't remove it from Windows 10.) Therefore, this page should be updated to reflect this change. I might find more links about this and update it myself in the future. --User123o987name (talk) 03:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

"Quiet hours" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Quiet hours. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 13#Quiet hours until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. TheAwesomeHwyh 16:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Cortana

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Result: Delist the lead is inadequate and some of the sourcing is questionable. The biggest (hardest to easily fix) issue is the lack of a reception section. This fails the broadness criteria. AIRcorn (talk) 01:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't think this article meets the good article criteria. Some sections and paragraphs are only a single sentence long, the article contains some vaguely promotional content (like the "by the numbers" section), the article cites sources which don't seem to be reliable or particularly reputable (KontentPort, Eye on Windows, Ubergizmo, etc.), and even the lead is a bit too short for my liking. This article feels more like a C class to me, not a GA. I've never brought an article to reassessment before, so apologies if I've done something wrong. TheAwesomeHwyh 16:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment One of the purposes of a GAR is to see if an article can be fixed to return it to GA status. In this case, comparing the article to the Oct. 8, 2016 version that was declared a GA [2], I seem some added material in the current version, but not too many deletions. So I guess the first thing to do is to figure out is if your criticisms come from a degraded article, and potentially fixable without too much effort, or if you would assign 'C' status to the original GA article. If the latter, that is a bigger problem. Could you take a took at the 2016 version? Thanks, --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 18:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ​Hi. I think that that version also fell short of being a GA; it the same problems with sourcing in that version too, and I forgot to mention that there's barely any mention of the reception Cortana received in either versions of the article, thought a Engadgenet reviewer's impression is oddly included in the "Cortana in other services" section. Prose is mediocre in both versions of the article, too. So, I would also say that version was a C. TheAwesomeHwyh 18:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Thanks for taking a look and clarifying the issues. So it seems as if there would be no quick fixes here. It is too much for me to take on at present. We'll see what others think. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 21:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Image caption

Dear IP editor with IP 96.19.71.229 and Manticore, you seem to be involved in a very slow edit war over the image caption under the first image in this article. I invite you to discuss the caption here.

I believe that IP editor is correct in this case and the caption should not be Cortana on Windows 10 (pre-2014 update) because Windows 10 was not released yet in 2014. In this case, 2004 means Windows 10 update also known as "20H1" and "May 2020" update. This update did change the appearance of Cortana on Windows 10 Task bar by splitting Cortana out of the search bar into a dedicated button with the Cortana logo. This new Cortana button can be seen on this image from Windows 10 article.

References

Anton.bersh (talk) 07:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Great, happy for the article to be updated to reflect that. I reverted those edits as they changed the existing content without explanation, and appeared nonsensical as Cortana was developed in 2019 (as I indicated in my edit summary). Thanks for the context. — Manticore 07:43, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done I have changed "pre-2014 update" to "pre-20H1 update" because it can not be confused with the year 2004. Also, I understand you because most of the time unexplained edits by IP editors are just spam. IP editor could definitely avoid this whole confusion by adding an edit summary in at least in their second edit. Long-term, I think the image could be updated to show a modern Windows 10 appearance. Anton.bersh (talk) 07:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Apparently, there was enough ambiguety in the caption for people to edit it again. Since these edits come from IP editors, there is no real way to discuss these chjanges. I took another screenshot, this time of the newest look of the app. I uploaded it with a non-ambiguous name this time, "File:Cortana.windows10.21H1.png". Anton.bersh (talk) 13:01, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Undo Move?

With halo cortana being the overwhelming leader in pageviews again, and the winding down of the cortana virtual assistant by microsoft, shouldn't the move be undone? 188.213.136.119 (talk) 18:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 8 January 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:16, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

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• Cortana → Cortana (virtual assistant)
• Cortana (disambiguation) → Cortana

– Though the Microsoft virtual assistant may arguably have been the primary topic during the 2017 requested move, this is not the case anymore. Microsoft has neutered the product in recent versions of Windows, and so less people have been reading this article. Page views. Schierbecker (talk) 23:35, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Support - Cortana remains an important Halo character but has diminished as far as the software is concerned. There is no clear and obvious primary topic for her right now. To be honest, there's an argument for her Halo incarnation being the primary topic since it was obviously the namesake of the virtual assistant._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Support – No primary topic. It was a pretty lame idea even in 2017, imo, with a slim majority of page views and only 2 users supporting the primarytopic takeover which was not in the RM as proposed. Dicklyon (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Support – No primary topic. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

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hihgfds 2601:152:C100:1556:D9CC:4AD6:DFB:6376 (talk) 22:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

That’s easy for you to say… Mr Larrington (talk) 16:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)