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Requested move 18 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Calidum 03:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Concord First Assembly Academy → cfa Academy – I am the media director for cfa Academy, and our legal name now at the Academy is cfa Academy with everything but the A in Academy being lower case. We are trying to change any remaining remnants of our old name, and we have had several individuals confused by seeing our old name on website searches, such as this one. Please refer to our website www.cfaacademy.org for reference. Thank you Auva91 (talk) 12:36, 18 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Newslinger talk 07:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: This is a strange promotional styling that is contrary to ordinary English conventions. I suggest either leaving the article where it is or moving it to CFA Academy per MOS:TM / WP:TITLETM. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: - I appreciate your time to comment, however, my interest in changing the name is in improving the encyclopedia and our consumer's searches, not for expressing personal opinions or manipulating promotional styles or advertising. While the name change may seem unconventional, that is our LEGAL name, which is why we are requesting the change from our old legal title. We kept the "cfa" as an identifier for our community, but it is not an acronym. Thank you for your suggestion, however, our request still stands as it is in the best interest of our community and our business to be recognized for our legal name. — Auva91 (talk) 10:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to MOS:TM and WP:TITLETM, I suggest to see WP:OFFICIALNAME. Wikipedia is not really concerned about the official or legal names of things (and if this is moved to CFA Academy, the difference would only be a matter of uppercase/lowercase styling per the MOS:TM examples like "skate" and "TIME"). To me it also seems odd to try to avoid "Concord First Assembly" when it is written in 2-foot-high letters on the building, but I do not object to moving this to CFA Academy. —BarrelProof (talk) 17:15, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose pending evidence of common name usage in reliable independent sources. bd2412 T 04:00, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Auva91: Please review the common name policy and provide evidence that "CFA Academy" or "cfa Academy" is the most commonly used name for this school in independent reliable sources. The school's website does not count because it is non-independent. — Newslinger talk 07:41, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Newskinger: - Here are some articles, all different sources (although there are numerous from each different source), showing the proper usage of our legal name "cfa Academy" : https://www.independenttribune.com/sports/boys-basketball-cannon-cfa-academy-open-vs-elite-programs-in/article_f4b548cc-e435-11e8-9059-1b7169c9085b.html https://www.movoto.com/schools/concord-nc/cfa-academy-01914578/ https://www.charlottefive.com/blumey-awards-2019/ https://www.charlotteobserver.com/entertainment/arts-culture/article74649837.html https://www.broadwayworld.com/charlotte/article/2017-Blumey-Award-Nominees-Feature-Best-in-High-School-Musical-Theater-Full-List-20170428 — Auva91 (talk) 8:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Please also be sure to read Wikipedia's policy on paid contributions if you haven't already. — Newslinger talk 04:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Auva91: If you look at MOS:TM, you'll find that the important thing isn't whether you can find a few sources that use the promoted styling. It is whether essentially all of the sources do, since the proposed styling is contrary to ordinary English. Looking at the second link that you provided (the "Movoto" site), I don't think it really qualifies as independent in regard to the name. I'm not sure whether some of the others really do either (or that they qualify as reliable). Also, the first sentence on that Movato site is "My kids love CFA Academy!" (boldface added), which is probably not exactly what you wanted to see there. I looked at the Wikipedia article and found that it only cites one source, and that source refers to this school as "First Assembly Christian School". I still prefer either leaving the article with its current name or using "CFA Academy", since that would follow the ordinary English convention. One of the things I like about Wikipedia is that it doesn't always do what the people who want to promote a topic want it to do. —BarrelProof (talk) 05:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 16 September 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved(closed by non-admin page mover) Megan☺️ ^{Talk to the monster} 10:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Concord First Assembly Academy → Concord Academy (North Carolina) – School has changed names — Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: as mentioned below, Concord Academy is a content page, so it is ineligible as a "new" title in a move request. Your request has been altered to reflect that. You can withdraw this request, change the new title to something else, or leave it as it is. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 08:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Concord Academy (North Carolina). Thank you for bringing this up. I was also planning to do it soon. Yes, they have changed their name and seem to be prominently using the new name, but there is already an article about a different topic at Concord Academy, and the Massachusetts school seems much more notable than the North Carolina school (e.g., 5–10 times as many page views, a longer institutional history, and more notable alumni), so a disambiguation term is necessary. Also see Concord Academy (Memphis). —BarrelProof (talk) 22:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I knew I should have checked to see why I couldn't move it. Yes, this seems the obvious solution.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 14:16, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Rreagan007 (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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