Talk:Clara Leiser

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Did you know... that American journalist and activist Clara Leiser traveled to Nazi Germany frequently, and documented the plight of families of political prisoners?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 06:31, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that American journalist and writer Clara Leiser (c. 1898 – 1991) traveled frequently to Nazi Germany and documented the plight of the families of political prisoners?~~ Source: [1]

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dragos Gemelos.

Created by Drmies (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 22:56, 8 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you for including me before I even added, Drmies. The mentioning of life data is unusual for DYK. We might get more specific with a hook about the fate of Mildred Harnack, or Hilde Koch, or the interview with a prison director, but up to you.

ALT0a: ... that American journalist and activist Clara Leiser traveled to Nazi Germany frequently, and documented the plight of families of political prisoners?

"Nazi" gives extra clicks, 1000 when mentioned at the end, 2000 when mentioned early. Sad if you think of it. - Thank you also for help with the new user who finds DYK in general a "tragic" "perversion" of their intention to promote new knowledge, - not without irony, that view. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ~~... that Clara Leiser wrote the poem "To and from the guillotine", when she heard from the execution of her friend Mildred Harnack by the Nazis?~~ Grimes2 (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In this case - with Clara Leiser reading like a German name - I think we should "American" somehow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2a: ~~... that American journalist and activist Clara Leiser wrote the poem "To and from the guillotine", when she heard from the execution of her friend Mildred Harnack by the Nazis?~~ Grimes2 (talk) 10:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

173 characters. Grimes2 (talk) 10:35, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with ALT0a, thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Her friend's article is tag-bombed. Can they go, now that you two improved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's up to Scope creep. I don't know about the copy edits, but the lead is indeed a bit short. Drmies (talk) 17:05, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies:@Grimes2:,@Gerda Arendt: That is really cool you have created a Clara Leiser article. I was hoping somebody would have done it. I also was hoping somebody would have a done a copyedit and better lede on Mildred Harnack. If somebody can do a lede and do a copyedit.. I'll do a lede in the next couple of hours. scope_creep^Talk 17:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit can do WP:GOCE/REQ, but that takes a month. Grimes2 (talk) 17:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a request at user:Tenryuu. Hope that helps. scope_creep^Talk 13:22, 11 August 2021 (UTC

@Drmies: @Grimes2: @Gerda Arendt: That is the two articles of Mr and Mrs Harnack, been copyedited by Tenryuu. They look and read better. scope_creep^Talk 09:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. Grimes2 (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:31, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: as long as we've cleared all of that up, we're good to go! I'm only approving ALT0a, though. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:03, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]