Talk:Cittaslow
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[edit]Regarding the British towns being referred to as cities - I know the set phrase is "Slow Cities" but presumably if a town of 50 people joined the scheme it would be described as a city? I guess my point is that the scheme is, by nature, open to ridicule from some quarters anyway, and to describe somewhere like Aylsham as a city is in danger of sounding very silly indeed. Do people in Britain really refer to them as "Slow Cities"? I doubt it. Bretonbanquet 17:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
'fraid we do call them Cittaslow or 'Slow Cities'. "Citta" in Italian can apply equally validly to a town or to a city - it has the sense of 'Municipality'. And if you join a club, you have to be happy with the name of the club you apply to join, eh? Graeme Kidd, president of Cittaslow UK.
"slow towns"
[edit]Why does it say that cittaslow literally translates to 'slow towns.' The word citta' directly translates to city, not town. A town would be called a paese, and a city a citta'. I'm going to change this because it is wrong. ABart26 23:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- An urban development with less than 50,000 inhabitants (one of Cittaslow's membership requirements) is more accurately classified as a town rather than a city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.196.108.96 (talk) 05:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
What makes a "slow city"?
[edit]This article is very short on information; mainly just a list of cities with scant details on what the selection criteria are. Pimlottc 13:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Bias in the use of the label "Americanization"
[edit]I removed the biased reference to "Americanization" that was inserted into the description of the slow cities movement and re-implemented the official description used from their website (http://www.slowmovement.com/slow_cities.php), that simply talks of the movement as a reaction against current global business practices. The use of the label "Americanization" is a blatant example of personal bias, which in context to the current state of global business practices, is not an appropriate description of what the slow cities movement and its goals are about. Describing current global business as being more American than Chinese, for example, is unjustified.
Money and the love of it knows no flags, IMHO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.219.147.84 (talk) 08:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Do not emphasize nationality without good reason
[edit]Wikipedia is not a place for nationalistic pride. Flags are visually striking, and placing a national flag next to something can make its nationality or location seem to be of greater significance than other things. For example, with an English flag next to him, Paul McCartney looks like an "English singer-songwriter from Liverpool who was in the Beatles"; without the flag next to him, he looks like an "English singer-songwriter from Liverpool who was in the Beatles". Emphasizing the importance of a person's citizenship or nationality above their other qualities risks violating Wikipedia's "Neutral point of view" policy.
The reasons the flags presented in CittaSlow
[edit]The presentation of country names (with flags) reveals:
- the countries that attach much importance to the life-style of CittaSlow philosophy more easily
- Even for the ease of categorization, CittaSlow official website presents its members like that: CittaSlow adds flags to all of its member countries,Japan, Germany, etc...
- The organizations, establishments, clubs of countries are given by its flag throughout the Wikipedia for ease of followability and navigation such as: Flags are the most depictive qualifier of countries, they have the visual characteristic as well, as opposite the normal text of the names of the countries.
Euroleague, UEFA_Champions_League#Winning_clubs,... See, for ease of followability, flags are almost always attached in Wikipedia.
- The member municipalities of CittaSlow has no characteristic to be separated as "by Nation/by Club" as in "Euroleague#By_Nation", Euroleague#By_Club. There is no competition among the municipalities of CittaSlow.
Alexyflemming (talk) 08:08, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure your argument holds water at all. Whether or not the CittaSlow official website uses flags is immaterial; this isn't an extension of the CittaSlow website, it's a Wikipedia article. I'd also dispute whether an image of a flag proves a country is committed to Cittaslow - it seems more evident based on the number of CittaSlow communities in that country. For example, I doubt Ireland is committed to the Slow movement if there is only one Irish town signed-up. Or for that matter, whether the USA,(a country of 300 million) is committed, with only three minor towns. You'd need some sort of reliable proof that there is a national commitment. As such, there's very little independent reliable proof of anything at the moment, considering most things are cited to CittaSlow's website. Sionk (talk) 10:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- "Whether or not the CittaSlow official website uses flags is immaterial; this isn't an extension of the CittaSlow website, it's a Wikipedia article."
- R: By the same token, we have to delete countless Wiki articles. Almost nobody raised similar arguements when the flags of the countries are processed in other Wiki pages, examples of which is given above.
- "I'd also dispute whether an image of a flag proves a country is committed to Cittaslow"
- R: I did not mention any "commitment" but intend to mean "tendency". That is clear in Italy. CittaSlow was founded in that country and there is now more and more members from Italy, compared with the other countries.
- Alexyflemming (talk) 12:06, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- "Whether or not the CittaSlow official website uses flags is immaterial; this isn't an extension of the CittaSlow website, it's a Wikipedia article."
- I'm not intending to remove them and get into an edit war. But if someone else chose to remove them I would back them up. This article isn't about an international competition, pre your own comments above. Sionk (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- ...though I see Tony1 has already removed them once. There seems to be pretty clear consensus flags don't serve a purpose here, other than decoration. Sionk (talk) 17:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- OK, take the flags out. Your arguments (Tony1 and Sionk) have also plausible points as well.Alexyflemming (talk) 17:53, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- ...though I see Tony1 has already removed them once. There seems to be pretty clear consensus flags don't serve a purpose here, other than decoration. Sionk (talk) 17:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
What does the last sentence of the lead mean?
[edit]"Especially in a city's use of spaces and the flow of life and traffic through them." What does this mean? The wording seems confusing and I'm not sure what it's trying to convey. PeanutButterPopcorn (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2021 (UTC)