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anyone have info on his political carrer? vertify the 2007 election?--Gary123 05:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It says Napoleon VIII. That should be VII. I changed it.Gerard von Hebel 21:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


This man's legal name is Charles Napoléon, not Charles Bonaparte, as stated by his site. The article should be relocalised. 84.103.83.112 17:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is his prince imperial title recognzed?

b4 wiki said he was running as a socialist. Is this true? why was it removed?

Succession

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What happens if the lines of Prince Napoleon VII Charles, his son, and his brother go extinct? Does the succession just die, will the last in line appoint it to someone, does it go to Napoleon's illegitimate lines, or what? Emperor001 20:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that would probably put an end to Bonapartism in the original sense of the word.

2008-06-16 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.19.130 (talk) 19:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

socialist?

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used to say her ran on the socialist now its mod dem? which is it?v--Gary123 (talk) 04:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy of heredity and the genetic markers of Napoleon I

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As a living male line of Napoleon I's Y-chromosome via directly from Napoleon's brother (i.e. of the same father), the Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup for Napoleon Bonaparte could be discovered by testing Charles Napoléon or another in the same direct male line of Napoleon (inheritance of the same Y-chromosome) like Charles' son Jean-Christophe Napoléon. This is of great interest for discovering Famous haplogroup members, Somebody swab this guy and make the findings public! 67.5.156.242 (talk) 09:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You make me very curious. What is your name? You only have to tell your most commonly used given name! Which brother do you descend from and how are you related to him? I just want to make sure that you have not been duped by a fake genealogy.

2008-06-06 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.67.105.223 (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not me, the article subject is the living male of which I speak. 67.5.156.228 (talk) 21:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, your expressions where a quite ambitious. I thought you claimed to be a male-line only decedent of Carlo Buonaparte just like Charles is. That was what made me so curious.

2008-07-27 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.19.102 (talk) 15:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Family background

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In the article it says that "As neither Napoléon I nor Napoléon II of France has legitimate issue in the male line," Napoleon II is the son of Napoleon I, so the sentence doesn't seem right. Do they mean Napoleon III instead of Napoleon II? Pevernagie (talk) 19:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The confusion is the tense used of the verb "to have": Napoleon I had legitimate issue, i.e. "Napoleon II" (the Duke of Reichstadt), but the latter died without issue, so now he has none. Napoleon I does have living descendants through an illegitimate son, Count Alexandre Joseph Colonna-Walewski. FactStraight (talk) 18:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

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http://www.charlesnapoleon.com/ is ok?


The link does not work. However, the Hebrew-language version of Wikipedia has a good photo of him. A link to it can be found here:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/he/0/04/Charles-napoleon.jpg

2008-12-30 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.

Political career

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This section badly needs to be brought up to date. It talks in the future about an election from March 2008. 24.11.127.26 (talk) 01:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Titel

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Charles is HIH as he is the titular French Emperor. Shouldn't he actually be HI&RH as he is the titular King of Westphalia as well? --80.108.185.227 (talk) 10:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC) No, because he isn't. He isn't 'titular emperor' for that matter either. His title is merely 'Prince', and the only position he holds is Head of the House of Bonaparte, and even that is disputed.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 03:06, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Members of dynasties whose heads were both emperors and kings did not consistently use both imperial and royal honorifics, e.g. dynasts of the Houses of Brazil, Britain, Prussia. Nor was the claim of Jerome's branch to Westphalia emphasized after 1815, and especially not since they inherited the imperial French claim from Louis' branch in 1879. FactStraight (talk) 05:24, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Imperial and Royal" refers distinctly to Austria-Hungary as an expression of its federalism, or to the Crown Prince of the former German Empire in expression of his rôle as heir to the head of a federation of de-jure equals ("Emperor") and personally one of these equals ("king"). Even in these both cases, it has ever been in colloquial disuse, with those theoretically having these titles calling themselves "Imperial Highness".
Besides, France is a state that exists to this day and undoubtedly was once an Empire led by the House of Bonaparte, in a rule having at least some popular support. On the other hand, whether the King of Westphalia we speak of was, in reality, ever more than an Imperial French Prince employed by the French military as a governor of occupied territories may well be in doubt (the case is somewhat different from Holland, or perhaps Naples, though there was no resistance movement as there was in Spain).--2001:A61:2147:2801:CC1B:90DA:90F:64CA (talk) 11:31, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Civil marriage only?

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Any knowledge on why he had a civil ceremony only for his 1st marriage although his 1st wife is a Catholic princess? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.203.175.140 (talk) 20:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both of his marriages were civil only. He & his first wife were children of the Sixties when they wed. Unlike Bourbon house law, that of the Bonapartes never required religious nuptials. FactStraight (talk) 05:24, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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