Talk:Ceratopogonidae

Ceratopogonidae Information Exchange

This link is probably just temporarily disabled, not permanently disabled.
--Squamate 16:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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http://campus.belmont.edu/cienews/cie.html

which lks to what i take to be a decade of the informal journal.
--Jerzy•t 06:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup?

Does every other word [or every third] need to be a link? I'm all for clearing up confusion by linking to other articles, but links to words like "Blood" "Compost" "Predator" and "Mountain" seem redundant. Makes the article hard to read. Ghostalker 06:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree --WaterWolf 15:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Itchy Bite

Culicoides Impunctatus, the Highland midge, has an itchy bite in all animals, not just horses as far as I'm aware. That's why it's such a pest. I'm not an expert so can anyone explain to me why the bite is itchy and is it something that should be mentioned in this article ? --WaterWolf 15:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Follow the link to sweet itch and you'll find out why the bite is itchy. Sweet itch is a serious veterinary problem. See page 181 in Mullen, G. & L. Durden, eds. (2002). Medical and Veterinary Entomology. London: Academic Press (Elsevier Science). It is definitely "something that should be mentioned in this article". Squamate 19:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Restoration of forensic-midgery sentence

The summary

That sentence is utterly insane...how would a lawyer ever find one little bug that bit one person and then use that as DNA evidence? And bugs fly, that evidence would be laughed at in court

was given as justification for the removal of

Blood ingested by biting midges captured in an area of interest can provide legally admissible DNA identification of persons present there.{{Fact|date=May 2008}}

which had been added at 03:33, 29 March 2008 by Runwild2006 (talk · contribs), who edited from 28 March to 16 April, and is likely to have been a participant in a 400-level forensic entomology course at a highly respected university. No doubt that editor could tell you off the top of their head what i thot i knew and found confirmed (not about midges, but about a hematophagous insect of another family): that there may be nothing nicer, after sucking some blood, than a day or three of rest.
Even if those specifics were not at hand as reasons, i would restore the sentence in light of the piss-poor argumentation in the summary: we are asked to regard the contribution as "utterly insane" because "bugs fly" (irrelevant: midges ain't bugs; also false: nothing simply "flies", some insects can fly, but those who can do so only with a good reason, i.e. under circumstances where flying gave their ancestors a wing up on their cousins who didn't fly under those circumstances). Or, for that matter, i hadn't seen a mosquito near home yet this season, but i hiked on an overgrown floodplain along a turbid river earlier this week, and 24 hours later there was a mosquito who hadn't even flown out of my car -- something about the windows being up, i think. Suppose the vehicle belonged to the crime victim?
As to the lawyer part, she would probably find that crucial midge by asking for it from the police forensic entomologist who, depending on various circumstances, would have spread out cloth or netting and released something that would stun or kill all the insects of interest, causing them to drop onto that collection material, and would have saved all that had had a recent blood meal.
Such evidence may actually provoke laughter, but would such laughter last all the way to the execution gurney?
(BTW, you don't need to study such courses as i suggested the contributor may have, to see that; i don't think any of my two-day first-aid courses have covered what i've said here, so it's fair in substance to summarize: i haven't taken any life-sciences courses since the 8th grade, more decades ago than you want to think about. Humility about one's knowledge is much more important than the knowledge itself.)
--Jerzy•t 05:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Get over yourself. Mike (talk) 05:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Photograph

Based on my one college course in entomology and some field experience, I am 99% certain the picture with the caption "Ceratopogonidae male" is not a Dipteran midge at all, but a true bug (Hemiptera). Please consider removing it. Stephen.canner (talk) 04:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen.canner (talk • contribs) 04:15, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Nossir. I am no Dipterologist and though I take your point, that is a fly all right, halteres and all. It is a nematoceran, a rather intriguing one, I might say, with those antennae protruding from behind those little (big, actually!) flags. I cannot swear that it is a Ceratopogonid, because I don't know them very well and don't know European Ceratopogonidae at all, but it certainly looks masculine. Hemiptera it certainly is not. I would not vote for removing it until there is some really positive disqualifying evidence. I'll check for pics with reliable provenance, but without much optimism; Ceratopogonidae are not very photogenic, nor very cooperative about their own portraiture, so wish me luck. Meanwhile, if you can find some material yourself, please give us a buzz. Cheers. JonRichfield (talk) 08:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

OK! I got luckier than I expected on Google images. False alarm. All clear. That is the real McCoy all right. There are some particularly convincing shots at [1]

Cheers again and thanks for the heads-up! JonRichfield (talk) 08:39, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Flying teeth

I have removed the following unreferenced fact from the article. Not only is it unreferenced, but it also is not cited in the Spanish version of the article despite concerning Spain. Computermacgyver (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

In Spain they are referred to as Flying Teeth.

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Size

In the UK we call them "midges", but it's not certain if we are referring to Ceratopogonidae or Highland midges. Some size information would be useful. Fuficius Fango (talk) 07:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)