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REQUEST FOR SPEEDY DELETION

1. First of all, the article is claiming that the practice is institutionally part of the Canons of the Catholic Church, but falls short in confirming this with reliably sound sources.
2. Article makes mention of several notable Marian images, but the respective main article of these said Marian images such as Our Lady of Fatima, etc, do not even make a single mention of the term "Canonical Coronation".
3. Questionable claims since not a single source was used to support the article parts such as the requirements for coronation, etc.
4. Catholic Encyclopedias mentioned in the article such as the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia do not even make a single mention of the term "Canonical Coronation".
5. Sources used includes blogs, and other non academic sources , etc.
6. The term "Canonical" is an Adverb, which means it is supposedly a part of the Canon Law, but the article also falls short in proving this extraordinary claim by indicating reliable sources.Kuya kyon (talk) 05:29, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's the problem?

user:Kuya kyon, what is exactly your issue with the article? The word "canonical"? There are plenty of references to 'canonical coronation' of various images in books, etc. I have no idea whether the term is accurate or not, but it looks to be a WP:COMMONNAME to describe the ritual. Do you have other suggestions how to rename the article? and even if you do not like the title, don't delete it by redirecting. Rather, discuss how to rename it or improve it. Renata (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm about to look into this user's edits; the list above in no way makes this eligible for speedy deletion. AfD, maybe, but that's unlikely also. That the article needs a rewrite seems clear to me. Drmies (talk) 04:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 October 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved per consensus and policy, non-controversial. pending G6 delete. (non-admin closure) Tiggerjay (talk) 20:32, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Canonical Coronation → Canonical coronation – Per MOS:CAPS#Religion, this church-related term has no need for capitalization. Elizium23 (talk) 19:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - came here to move the page exactly for this reason after it popped up on my watchlist today. Renata (talk) 00:17, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

reference

Does anyone have any more information about references like "Brief historical notes, theological and legal on canonical coronation". Some have no links and seem hard to find. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sexuality of Forli

Previous version of this article said, without citation, "Forli, a gay man and Marian fanatic". I don't know anything either supporting or disproving Forli's sexual orientation, but as this is the Canonical coronation article I don't see how his sexuality is relevant. If it can be shown to be relevant and supported by appropriate sources, we can restore that reference. Thanks.—Jch thys 02:38, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Categories Saint Joseph in art and Virgin Mary in art

[EDIT: Changed my mind, see below] I'd removed the two categories as tangential. Putting a crown on top of a statue or a painting isn't art, it is putting something on top of an existing artwork. Editor Jnestorius reversed my edit. Please un-reverse, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:22, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In mulling this over I've changed my mind. I was thinking more of 'pure artworks' as the artist intends, then realized, away from the computer, that this is close enough not to be tangential, and now seems related enough to me to fit into the category. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:33, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Wikijargon is that Category:Virgin Mary in art and the others are topic categories as well as set categories. jnestorius^(talk) 17:03, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

image?

Why have an image that is specifically NOT what the article is about? The importance of 'papal act' in 'canonical coronation' is not that the Pope does it, but he authorizes or approves it. A picture of a pope signing something or nodding approvingly would be more a propos.--2607:FEA8:D5DF:F3D9:75FD:9C5:E8BC:345A (talk) 19:44, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wholeheartedly agree! The trouble is that this article was created and maintained by IP editors (no offense) with very poor grasp of policies and guidelines. I have deleted the photo in question, and moved up the actual canonically crowned image. Thank you for bringing it up. Elizium23 (talk) 19:56, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]