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Give and open close question in cancel culture Shaiam (talk) 16:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification needed @ #Academic, philosophical, and legal perspectives

I hadded a clarification needed tag to the sentence that begins paragraph 6 of the section Academic, philosophical, and legal perspectives. The sentence, without the tag, reads:

Philosophers generally define cancellation as the "any kind of support (viewership, social media follows, purchases of products endorsed by the person, etc.) for those who are assessed to have said or done something unacceptable or highly problematic, generally from a social justice perspective especially alert to sexism, heterosexism, homophobia, racism, bullying, and related issues."

This appears to be missing a key word or words before the direct quote. I assume it is supposed to say that cancellation is defined as the removal or denial or withdrawal of any kind of support or something along those lines. I don't have access to the cited source (Ng, 2020 Cancel culture#cite note-47) so I can't confirm my assumption. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 15:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The full paragraph from that source reads:

In March 2016, a significant contingent of fandom for the television series The 100 (The CW, 2014–present) was outraged by the death of a lesbian character, killed off just after she and another female character had made love for the first time. As I have discussed elsewhere (Ng 2017), a major cause of discontent was how The 100’s creative team had queerbaited viewers, but here the relevant point concerns the aftermath for showrunner Jason Rothenberg and the series. Rothenberg, who had by that time amassed 120,000 followers on Twitter, lost 14,000 of them in the 24 hours after Lexa’s death (Cranz 2016). Fans also targeted the show, making sure that their tweets criticizing The 100 would not count toward its social media mentions.1 While not explicitly framed as such, this was an act of what has come to be termed “cancel culture,”2 that is, the withdrawal of any kind of support (viewership, social media follows, purchases of products endorsed by the person, etc.) for those who are assessed to have said or done something unacceptable or highly problematic, generally from a social justice perspective especially alert to sexism, heterosexism, homophobia, racism, bullying, and related issues.

I don't like the current wording because there is nothing to suggest that "philosophers generally define" cancel culture in this way. It should be edited to make clear that this is just Ng's definition. Astaire (talk) 17:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Ng is a "media, culture, and politics" researcher and does not have any philosophy degrees - it is questionable whether she is even a philosopher. [1]. Astaire (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "philosophers generally define" statement caught my eye, too. Ng is described earlier in the same section of the article as a "media studies scholar." Such a strong statement, even if it were updated to "media scholars generally define," should be sourced to a reliable secondary or tertiary source summarizing views on the topic and not a one-off quote even if it is attributed to a relevant expert and sourced from a peer reviewed journal. I have edited this paragraph so it begins Ng defines cancel culture as "the withdrawal of any kind of support… This whole section could use cleaning up. Even if most of the text is kept, paragraph breaks and some rearranging would improve readability. Although it could probably be shortened, too. At least this quote is complete and no longer misrepresents the source. Thanks for your help! --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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