Talk:Cambridge Historic District (Cambridge, New York)

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A fact from Cambridge Historic District (Cambridge, New York) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 October 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that streets in the Cambridge, New York, historic district (Hubbard Hall, pictured) intersect at odd angles because the village was created from the combination of three crossroads hamlets?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/October.

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was Moved. doncram (talk) 00:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cambridge Historic District → Cambridge Historic District (Cambridge, New York) and
Cambridge Historic District (disambiguation) → Cambridge Historic District — Make way for disambiguation. It is surprising to find that C H D is in New York State, when Cambridge, Massachusetts is much more well known. And, it turns out, there are two Cambridge HDs in MA, as noted now in new disambiguation page currently at Cambridge Historic District (disambiguation). I think elsewhere Daniel Case has expressed preference for names like Cambridge Historic District (New York) rather than repeating the Cambridge word in the parenthetical. I personally think showing (Cambridge, New York) is better to clarify that is a town, rather than begging the question of where in New York is Cambridge Historic District, especially as i think few know that Cambridge is a town in New York. I don't care much about this, relative to the need for a disambiguation page at the basic name, so moving to Cambridge Historic District (New York) would also be okay by me. --doncram (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support — I don't have an opinion at present re the details of the target name, but I agree that "Cambridge Historic District" is ambiguous and the dab page should occupy the ambiguous base name. --Una Smith (talk) 04:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just boldly implemented the first move, so that DYK which author is likely to make soon will provide traffic history at a permanently acceptable name. The second move is not possible to implement without an administrator's assistance, so this RM discussion is still open. Thanks! doncram (talk) 02:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about making this move, which Don indicated he would have been all right with anyway. There are lots of Cambridges in the country ... you can't assume everyone automatically thinks of the one in Massachusetts. Or that a reader from, say, New Zealand, necessarily even knows the name of the town Harvard and MIT are in. Using the community name in the dab term when the HD contains the community name either by itself or with some modifier that makes it clear that a community is being referred to (i.e., "Downtown Podunk Historic District") makes it look silly and repetitious to include the name of the community and the parentheses ("Podunk Historic District (Podunk, New York)"). It should only be used if it's necessary, if another HD in the same state carries the same name (which is possible). Daniel Case (talk)

Okay, the disambiguation page was put at the base name and the New York one was put at Cambridge Historic District (New York). Am closing, this is done. doncram (talk) 00:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merge articles?

Shouldn't this article be merged with the existing article for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_(village),_New_York ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wkharrisjr (talk • contribs) 15:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No. The historic district doesn't cover the whole village. Daniel Case (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the historic district a subset of the whole village? If that is the case, shouldn't the historic district would be a section in the article about the village. What caught my attention in the first place is that the article about the village had no mention of the village history yet the historic district had historical background. If one was looking for information about the founding of Cambridge, the natural place to look would be in the village article; one may not know to look in the historic district article.Wkharrisjr (talk) 23:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]