Talk:Bryan Fogel/Archive 1
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Coatracks
The article contains much information about the subject's films including an awards box and several reviews. This would normally be fine in BLP's, however, in this case there are already articles for each of these films, and there are already hatnotes within the article for each of those films. Including all of this extra information seems overtly WP:PROMO and WP:COATRACKish. I propose that this information be limited and would like local editors feedback. Thanks! Spintendo 04:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- The lengthy descriptions of the subject's films and promotional reviews along with award tables for each film omitted. All of this information is already included in the individual Wikipedia articles about those films (hatnotes already present are, of course, retained). Most of this promotional material had been added over time by a single editor who has almost no other edits to any other articles. Spintendo 16:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Proposed table format for accolades
The following accolades information pertaining to the living person in this article associated with the films and references has been reformatted and consolidated from prior awards / nominations tables within sub-sections of each film. @Spintendo would you kindly review the proposed modifications in an attempt to improve the article structure based on the prior formatting and placement of information that had been published. Based on my research of other articles similar to this subject matter, this is more inline with many other filmmaker accolades. Many thanks for your consideration. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 03:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Jeremycohen333 (talk) 03:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeremycohen333 The formatting of the table looks perfect. The only issue I have is that none of the awards or the award bestowers are WikiLinked. If you could format the table to include all the Wikilinks, that would be helpful. Any award which is not independently notable should be omitted, per WP:BLPAWARDS. ('Independently notable' means the award itself---not just the award bestower-- has its own Wikipedia page.[a]) As far as references, if the award has an official website, then that would be the best one to use as the reference for the award being given (e.g. oscars.org as the reference for AMPAS's Academy award, etc). If no official site, then a news outlet can be listed as the reference (though most notable awards should have their own websites). Spintendo 05:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @Spintendo. Many thanks for your feedback on the table configuration, it's very much appreciated and I really do like how it shaped up. Please refer to the latest comments for this Accolades table update based on all your recommendations. I agree that linking each award reference to the official site where available to view all nominees provides more value to the viewer. Please see comment re: two Award bestowers listed (where WikiLinks were not available). I've proposed a solution to link those to sites where all nominees are listed. This is the only area in question, otherwise I do hope I've followed your recommendations correctly. Looking forward to your review thanks again for all your insight and guidance. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 18:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeremycohen333 Thank you for the changes you've made it's much appreciated. However, many Wikilinks are still missing. For example, the following entries for the Directors Guild award should be Wikilinked like this:
- Directors Guild of America - award bestower
- Outstanding Directing – Documentary - award itself
- The wiki link for Oscar for Best Documentary is also missing a link to the award itself.
- The BAFTA award is also missing its Wikilink:
- In fact it appears that all of the awards are missing their WL's. Each and every entry should have double links- one for the bestower and one for the award. If a link cannot be made for the award itself then a link to the section of the bestower's article where the bestower mentions the award can be substituted in its place. If the article on the bestower does not mention the award then the award and the bestower should both be omitted from the list (meaning the entire mentioning of the award itself and its being either nominated or won should be avoided). In that way, by listing only awards which are independently notable, we help to ensure that the article is written from a neutral point of view, which is a Wikipedia policy requirement. Spintendo 04:04, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo, Thank you tremendously once again for your review and recommendations for the accolades table. I've included Wikilinks to all award article pages as well as the actual awards, these have been Wikilinked to their own articles or within the award bestowers article section itself. Please advise if formatting is acceptable so as to proceed to publish to this article. Many thanks for all your help to refine this information. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- Edit request implemented Spintendo 03:32, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo, Thank you tremendously once again for your review and recommendations for the accolades table. I've included Wikilinks to all award article pages as well as the actual awards, these have been Wikilinked to their own articles or within the award bestowers article section itself. Please advise if formatting is acceptable so as to proceed to publish to this article. Many thanks for all your help to refine this information. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeremycohen333 Thank you for the changes you've made it's much appreciated. However, many Wikilinks are still missing. For example, the following entries for the Directors Guild award should be Wikilinked like this:
- Hello @Spintendo. Many thanks for your feedback on the table configuration, it's very much appreciated and I really do like how it shaped up. Please refer to the latest comments for this Accolades table update based on all your recommendations. I agree that linking each award reference to the official site where available to view all nominees provides more value to the viewer. Please see comment re: two Award bestowers listed (where WikiLinks were not available). I've proposed a solution to link those to sites where all nominees are listed. This is the only area in question, otherwise I do hope I've followed your recommendations correctly. Looking forward to your review thanks again for all your insight and guidance. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 18:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ If the award does not have its own Wikipedia page but it is mentioned on the page of the award bestower (in its own section) than a Wikilink to that section of the article would be adequate
BAFTA award for Icarus
Was this award and/or nomination given in 2017 or 2018? The BAFTA website states 2018, but the Wikipedia article for the award states 2017. Please advise so it can be correctly placed in the awards table. Spintendo 02:05, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Spintendo, the 71st BAFTA Awards where given in 2018 for the 2017 film. On the awards table it is currently showing in 2018 when the award was received.
- Also noticed that the Oscar win at the 90th Academy Awards is listed under 2017. The award was received in 2018, so would like to request to move this to 2018 so that appears correct as well. Thank you. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 02:46, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeremycohen333 These can be changed no problem. I just want to confirm that the Academy & Bafta Awards were presented in 2018 but were for films shown theatrically in 2017 is that correct? That would be the source of my confusion on this. (That time shift is not accounted for on the individual notable award page's dating; the article for the Academy award for Best documentary feature, for example, lists Icarus under the year 2017). If the table's dating is based on when the awards were presented, then all of the awards should be rechecked for their presentation dates, as I would assume the film critics award, Sundance and other related award dates would similarly be one year shifted from when the films were released theatrically, which means the 2017 and 2020 dates should be removed completely in favor of only 2018 and 2021 dates. Spintendo 23:10, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've replaced the dates for when the awards and/or nominations were received, including an explanatory note describing this, within the table. It appears as if the various critics/reviewers awards were received the year of the film's theatrical exhibition, and all the other awards/noms were received one year afterwards. It wasn't clear from a perusal of the articles page when the Sundance awards were held, so those were kept on the year of the films theatrical exhibition. Spintendo 00:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Spintendo Thank you for this modification. The placement of awards is now accurate after clicking through each award in terms of when the it was received. Also the Note added to clarify theatrical release vs award ceremonies as well is very helpful. Much appreciated! Jeremycohen333 (talk) 18:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've replaced the dates for when the awards and/or nominations were received, including an explanatory note describing this, within the table. It appears as if the various critics/reviewers awards were received the year of the film's theatrical exhibition, and all the other awards/noms were received one year afterwards. It wasn't clear from a perusal of the articles page when the Sundance awards were held, so those were kept on the year of the films theatrical exhibition. Spintendo 00:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Jeremycohen333 These can be changed no problem. I just want to confirm that the Academy & Bafta Awards were presented in 2018 but were for films shown theatrically in 2017 is that correct? That would be the source of my confusion on this. (That time shift is not accounted for on the individual notable award page's dating; the article for the Academy award for Best documentary feature, for example, lists Icarus under the year 2017). If the table's dating is based on when the awards were presented, then all of the awards should be rechecked for their presentation dates, as I would assume the film critics award, Sundance and other related award dates would similarly be one year shifted from when the films were released theatrically, which means the 2017 and 2020 dates should be removed completely in favor of only 2018 and 2021 dates. Spintendo 23:10, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Proposed background and timeline on Fogel's involvement in events and development for Icarus film
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. |
Hello Wikipedians, I’m proposing additional detailed information and citations that have been researched and prepared to add to the section "Icarus" on behalf of the subject Bryan Fogel and events surrounding his direct actions and involvement in the events documented in the making of this film.
Your review and approval of this topic is appreciated. When you have finished reviewing the proposed changes, please indicate if this update may be directly edited to the article section.
- Specific text to be added or removed: See below Wiki formatted text including WikiLinks when available and citations for all topics discussed.
- Reason for the change: Presently, this section does not include a biography of events in direct relation to Fogel's work on the film Icarus with limited information that includes film reviews and features discussing Fogel, mention of awards received and film distribution details. I'm proposing updating Fogel's biography to include events pertaining to his career that Fogel was personally was involved in and inspired him to develop this film, as well as the timeline of actions by Fogel described in this section that are accurately well constructed and cited.
- References supporting change: All reliable sourced references updates included below in proposed information.
Icarus
In the years between 2012-2014, Fogel found himself in a career depression struggling financially and questioning whether he should continue in the entertainment business. At The Oslo Freedom Forum in 2019, Fogel stated: “And here I was, I was almost 40 years old and I was, in what I call, director’s jail, and I didn't know what I was gonna do with my life, and I didn't know how I was gonna pick up those pieces.”[1]
A life long cyclist, Fogel had followed Lance Armstrong’s rise and fall and was fascinated that while Lance had ultimately confessed to doping throughout his career, that he hadn’t actually been caught or had ever failed a doping test despite avoiding detection from 500 plus tests. When it was learned that Armstrong had in fact been using performance enhancing drugs, Fogel became fascinated with how Lance had been able to carry on without ever testing positive or being caught for doping.[2]
What struck Fogel was that clearly the anti-doping system in sport was failing to catch cheaters. Fogel wanted to document this on camera and prove his thesis firsthand stating, “the idea I had was to prove the system in place to test athletes was bullshit.”[3]
This premise would develop into what would become Icarus, Fogel’s first documentary feature.[4]
Filming for Icarus began in May, 2014 and shortly after, Fogel connected with Russian scientist, Dr. Grigory Rodchenkov, who at the time was the director of Moscow’s WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) laboratory.[5] Rodchenkov who had been the director of the laboratory since 2005 agreed to help Fogel personally “dope” and take performance enhancing drugs in order to test and evade positive detection for an amateur bicycling race in Europe, the Haute Route.[6]
During 2015, Fogel and Rodchenkov worked closely to document this scheme, during which time Rodchenkov was under investigation by WADA[7] for allegedly doping Russian track and field athletes.[8]
On November 10, 2015, WADA made public the findings of its year long investigation and released a report and recommendations for punishment.[9]
The report confirmed allegations against Rodchenkov, where Rodchenkov then resigned from his duties as laboratory director and Russia was suspended from all world and track events.[10]
Rodchenkov turned to Fogel to help him to escape Russia believing that if he were to stay, that he would be murdered by the FSB. Fogel then hastily arranged air tickets for Rodchenkov to come to Los Angeles in November 2015.[11]
Rodchenkov’s escape was successful and over the next several months he would reveal the full extent of Russia’ state sponsored doping program to Fogel.[12]
Rodchenkov, under a Department of Justice subpoena to appear in front of the grand jury, went to the The New York Times with Fogel in May 2016, and through three days of interviews with reporter Rebecca Ruiz and Michael Schwirtz they disclosed evidence that would be the backbone of the front page The New York Times story on May 12, 2016.[13]
Fogel and Rodchenkov alleged Russia had orchestrated state-sponsored fraud, conspiring to cheat the Olympics for decades, including the 2014 Sochi Olympics, where Rodchenkov, with the help of the Federal Security Service (FSB, formerly the KGB), changed steroid-tainted urine of the Russian national team to evade positive detection.[14]
Within a week of the New York Times story, WADA appointed Prof. Richard McLaren to investigate Dr. Rodchenkov’s allegations.[15]
As a result of McLaren’s report, Russia was suspended from participating in the 2018 Winter Olympics in South Korea under its flag, although it did send 169 athletes under the moniker "Olympic Athletes from Russia."[16]
In August 2017, Fogel met with members of the US Congress and Senate to discuss the extent of Russian tampering in global affairs, specifically the 2016 US elections.[17]
This story, which became the foundation of his feature documentary film Icarus would lead to Russia’s ban from the Olympic Games in 2018,[18] 2020 and 2022.[19]
Icarus premiered at the 2017 Sundance Film Festival[20] where it won the first ever Special Jury "Orwell Award"[21] and the first ever Audience Choice Award[22] at Sundance Film Festival London. The film was acquired in a historic $5 million sale to Netflix[23] and released worldwide on Netflix on August 4, 2017.[24]
Icarus garnered critical acclaim from both film critics and editorial publications around the globe. The New York Times described Fogel’s film Icarus as “Illuminating”[25]and Variety magazine called it “A Game Changing Documentary.”[26]
Icarus would go on to win the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature at the 90th Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in 2018.[27] The film was also nominated for the Best Documentary Feature at the 71st BAFTAs[28], and Fogel was also nominated for outstanding directorial achievement at the 70th Directors Guild of America Awards[29] and three 2018 Primetime Emmy Awards[30] for writing, directing and best documentary special. Icarus also received the 2018 Edward R. Murrow Award for Outstanding Journalism,[31] and won SummerDocs Audience Award at the 2017 Hamptons International Film Festival.[32]
- ^ "Icarus and Russia's Olympic Doping Scandal - Bryan Fogel - 2019". Oslo Freedom Forum. 9 June 2019. Retrieved May 16, 2023.
- ^ Carozza, Dick (1 July 2018). "A doping dichotomy Olympic Doping Scandal - Bryan Fogel". Fraud Magazine. Retrieved May 16, 2023.
- ^ Gilbert, Sophie (6 August 2017). "Icarus: A Doping House of Cards Tumbles Down". The Atlantic. Retrieved May 16, 2023.
- ^ Goldberg, Matt (22 January 2017). "'Icarus' Review: Rising from Dopey Investigation to Dope Exposé - Sundance 2017". Collider. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ Ahmed, Murad (31 July 2020). "Whistleblower Grigory Rodchenkov: 'Sport won't be clean. Never'". Financial Times. Retrieved May 22, 2023.
- ^ "Icarus doping documentary nominated for an Oscar". Cycling News. 24 January 2018. Retrieved May 22, 2023.
- ^ "The independent commission report #1" (PDF). Wada. 9 November 2015. Retrieved May 17, 2023.
- ^ "Former head of Russian anti-doping lab to be interviewed by Wada". The Guardian. 20 May 2016. Retrieved May 17, 2023.
- ^ Keating, Steve (10 November 2017). "WADA says has database proving widespread Russian doping". Reuters. Retrieved May 17, 2023.
- ^ "McLaren Independent Investigation Report - Part I". Wada. 18 July 2016. Retrieved May 17, 2023.
- ^ Harding, Luke (2 August 2020). "'The Kremlin wants me dead': Russia's sports doping whistleblower speaks out". The Guardian. Retrieved May 17, 2023.
- ^ Schmidle, Nicholas (19 February 2018). "Russia's Doping Whistle-Blower Goes on the Lam". The New Yorker. Retrieved May 12, 2023.
- ^ Ruiz, Rebecca R.; Schmidle, Nicholas (12 May 2016). "Russian Insider Says State-Run Doping Fueled Olympic Gold". The New York Times. Retrieved May 12, 2023.
- ^ Ingle, Sean (12 May 2016). "Russian doctors and athletes 'switched urine samples' at Sochi Olympics". The Guardian. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ McLaren, Richard H. (18 July 2016). "Wada Investigation of Sochi Allegations" (PDF). The Independent Person Report. Retrieved May 22, 2023.
- ^ "Explainer: What is the 'ROC,' and Why Are Russian Athletes Competing Under the Olympic Flag?". NBC Sports Chicago. 3 February 2022. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ Yuan, Jada (5 December 2017). "How Bryan Fogel Accidentally Documented the Russian Olympic Doping Scandal". Vulture. Retrieved December 17, 2017.
- ^ Ruiz, Rebecca R.; Panja, Tariq (5 December 2017). "Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C." The New York Times. Retrieved December 17, 2017.
- ^ Wallace, Ava; Giambalvo, Emily (11 Feb 2022). "Timeline of Russia's state-sponsored Olympic doping scandal". The Washington Post. Retrieved December 17, 2017.
- ^ "Icarus". Sundance Institute. Archived from the original on 11 September 2018. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ "'17 Sundance Film Festival - Award Winners". Sundance Institute. Archived from the original on 27 October 2017. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ Parfitt, Orlando (5 June 2017). "'Icarus' wins first ever Sundance London audience award". Screen Daily. Retrieved June 5, 2017.
- ^ Setoodeh, Brent; Lang, Ramin (24 January 2017). "Sundance: Netflix Lands Russian Doping Documentary 'Icarus' (EXCLUSIVE)". Variety. Retrieved December 17, 2017.
- ^ Kenny, Glenn (3 August 2017). "'Icarus' Puts Russia, Cycling and Doping Into One Cocktail". The New York Times. Retrieved May 23, 2023.
- ^ Jaworowski, Ken (3 August 2017). "'Review: In 'Icarus,' Unexpectedly Exploring the Russian Doping Scandal". The New York Times. Retrieved August 3, 2017.
- ^ Debruge, Peter (20 January 2017). "Film Review: 'Icarus'". Variety. Retrieved January 20, 2017.
- ^ Guerrasio, Jason (4 March 2018). "How a guy who injected PEDs to see the effects scored an Oscar win and uncovered the biggest doping scandal in Olympics history". Business Insider. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
- ^ "Bafta Film Awards 2018: The winners in full". BBC News. 18 February 2018. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
- ^ Nordyke, Kimberly (10 January 2018). "DGA Awards: Complete List of Nominations". Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
- ^ "Awards & Nominations". Emmys. 17 September 2018. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
- ^ Pendersen, Eric (19 June 2018). "Edward R. Murrow Awards: CBS News Wins Overall Excellence For Second Straight Year". Deadline. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
- ^ "SummerDocs 2017". Hampton International Film Fest. Retrieved May 25, 2023.
Jeremycohen333 (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Reply 18-JUN-2023
- The information requested to be added is more germane to the article on the Icarus film, rather than the director himself. Including it here seems overtly promotional in nature. The subject for this article is the director himself, rather than his films, which have their own articles.
- The other information requested to be added appears to be related to his films, including promotional statements made by reviewers of the film, which serve no purpose for an article which is about the director himself.
- Other additional information from the edit request is either already within the article or falls under the response given above under number 1.
Spintendo 05:00, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Ok understood and appreciated. I've started a new topic at the bottom of the page per your request to further address proposed additions to this section. Many thanks for your review and guidance on this topic!
- Jeremycohen333 (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Is it appropriate to request that we close this particular Topic discussion as I've started a new Topic section for "Icarus" additional information? Thank you. Jeremycohen333 (talk) 00:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Proposed update for "The Dissident"
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello Wikipedians, I’m proposing edits for the Career section “The Dissident” on behalf of the subject Bryan Fogel to expand on this documentary as part of his career biography.
Thank you in advance in reviewing the additional information on this topic of the subject’s biography.
- Specific text to be added or removed: See below formatted text including citations for all topics discussed.
- Reason for the change: Presently, this section does not include a biography of events in direct relation to Fogel's work on the film The Dissident with some information that includes film reviews and features discussing Fogel, mention of awards received and film distribution details. Proposing updating Fogel's biography to include the following below.
- References supporting change: Reliable and notable sourced articles included in proposed edits.
- #1-6 Citations: Revise current biography with additional info as the first paragraph of the organization that Fogel connected with to help with his documentary, as well citing more details on notable political and entertainment figures that attended the premiere of this film.
- After Icarus, in 2020, Fogel under the banner Orwell Productions, co-wrote, directed and produced the documentary feature film The Dissident, which follows the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi and Saudi Arabia's efforts to control international dissent.[1] Fogel would enlist the support of the Human Rights Foundation and Thor Halvorssen.[2] Fogel envisioned telling a story that went far beyond the newspaper headlines of Jamal Khashoggi’s murder.[3] The film had its world premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in January 24, 2020[4] attended by Hillary Clinton,[5] Alec Baldwin and Reed Hastings.[6]
- #7-10 Citations: Add as the next paragraph citing issues with distribution due to the subject matter of Fogel’s film.
- Despite excellent reviews, major film studios were reluctant to pick up the film, for fear of reprisals.[7][8][9] While The Dissident was met with acclaim when it premiered at the Sundance Film Festival, Fogel had trouble finding a distributor for the film, believing that this was due to the distributors’ ties to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.[10]
- #11-14 Citations: Add as the next paragraph to include reliable and notable sourced reviews directly mentioning Fogel’s work as a filmmaker.
- Fogel’s film was applauded by critics, "Fogel's investigation is vigorous, deep and comprehensive."[11] and "an eye-opening thriller brew of corruption, cover-up, and real-world courage."[12] “Bryan Fogel’s new documentary about the killing of Jamal Khashoggi underlines the disregard for human rights when money and geopolitics are at play.”[13] “The fact that there have been no controversies about it The Dissident since its release proves that Fogel got all his facts right which makes it an even more astounding achievement.”[14]
- #15-18 Citations: Revise current bio information as the last paragraph, including notable co-writer with additional citations to support this topic.
- The film was released on December 18, 2020, by Briarcliff Entertainment. Fogel's screenplay for The Dissident won the Writers Guild of America Award for Best Documentary Screenplay award at the 73rd Writers Guild of America Awards[15] alongside Mark Monroe[16][17] in 2020 and Fogel’s 2nd BAFTA Nomination for Best Documentary Feature.[18]
Thank you for your consideration. Moliere93 (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC) Moliere93 (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ report, Staff (2020-10-23). "Bryan Fogel's 'The Dissident' wins Aspen FIlmfest Audience Award". www.aspentimes.com. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Vivarelli, Nick (2021-02-05). "'Dissident' Producer Thor Halvorssen on Alleged Saudi Troll Campaign Against Film on Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb". Variety. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ "Jamal Khashoggi: All you need to know about Saudi journalist's death". BBC News. 2018-10-10. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ "Bryan Fogel Returns to the Festival with 'The Dissident' - sundance.org". 2020-01-29. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Galuppo, Mia (2020-01-27). "Sundance: Hillary Clinton Talks Jamal Khashoggi Doc 'The Dissident'". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ "Khashoggi doc, too explosive for streaming, debuts on-demand". AP News. 2021-01-05. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ "Acclaimed Documentary Filmmakers Face Distribution Issues For Hot-Button Subjects". InsideHook. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Report, Times-Mirror Staff (2020-10-21). "'Minari,' 'The Dissident' win Middleburg Film Festival Audience Awards". LoudounTimes.com. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Thompson, Anne (2020-10-23). "How Award-Winning Filmmakers Make Dangerous Documentaries That No Major Distributor Will Touch". IndieWire. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Countryman, Eli (2021-01-14). "Bryan Fogel Discusses 'The Dissident' and the Entertainment Industry's Reluctance to Distribute It". Variety. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ McCarthy, Todd (2020-01-24). "'The Dissident': Film Review | Sundance 2020". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Gleiberman, Owen (2020-01-25). "'The Dissident': Film Review". Variety. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Girish, Devika (2020-12-24). "'The Dissident' Review: A Murder for Power". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ Chatterjee, Ambar (2021-02-13). "The Dissident captures the silencing of a distinguished journalist in an unforgettable way". EastMojo. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ I.Faleye (2021-03-22). "2021 Writers Guild Awards Winners - 'The Dissident' Wins for Documentary Screenplay". VIMooZ. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ 2021 Writers Guild Awards: “The Dissident” wins Documentary Screenplay, retrieved 2023-09-12
- ^ "Mark Monroe | Producer, Writer, Director". IMDb. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- ^ "Khashoggi documentary and Palestinian film nominated for BAFTAs". Middle East Eye. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
- With regards to your current request, it is not known what is meant by your headings "1-6 citations" and "7-10 citations". I'm guessing that this is related to the previous discussions I've had with User:Jeremycohen333 with regards to attempts to expand the artcle (the requested text proposed by you seems very similar to text that has already been proposed by Jeremycohen333 and reviewed by me.) I would suggest taking a look at the previous layers of requests in order to garner an understanding of why certain requests were implemented and others were not. If you have any questions about specific reviews of specific proposals please feel free to ask here or on my talk page. Regards, Spintendo 22:26, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo, thank you for your reply. Yes, this is related to your previous discussions with User:Jeremycohen333 regarding "1-6 citations" and "7-10 citations". I am stepping in to help clarifying since I have been working on The Dissident for 11 months on a daily basis and want to make sure your requests are answered and the information and sources provided are accurate and also complying with your guidelines.
- Please let me know how I could help facilitating and getting this section posted. Moliere93 (talk) 01:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply, but I don't see where there is a current request for clarification pending. My last request for clarification, dated August 14th, 2023, was answered (on the same day) and replied to with a decision (on September 23rd, 2023). A further reply (dated September 27) was not signed by the posting editor, and thus was not given an answer by me. If you have a new request, please post it below. Regards, Spintendo 01:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo, in reviewing this proposal, the additions by Moliere93 pertain to a new topic for "The Dissident" under the "Career" section. I've now signed the latest revisions proposed under "Additional revised content proposed for "Icarus" which is the prior topic I've replied to Reply 27-SEP-2023.
- Best, Jeremy Jeremycohen333 (talk) 07:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply Jeremycohen, but Moliere already responded to my question and indicated that it was indeed related to my previous discussion with Jeremycohen
":Hi Spintendo, thank you for your reply. Yes, this is related to your previous discussions with User:Jeremycohen333 regarding "1-6 citations" and "7-10 citations".
As I replied to Moliere, that discussion between Jeremycohen and I was completed (at the time). If there is a new request, please post it at the bottom of the talk page. Regards, Spintendo 21:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply Jeremycohen, but Moliere already responded to my question and indicated that it was indeed related to my previous discussion with Jeremycohen
- Thank you for your reply, but I don't see where there is a current request for clarification pending. My last request for clarification, dated August 14th, 2023, was answered (on the same day) and replied to with a decision (on September 23rd, 2023). A further reply (dated September 27) was not signed by the posting editor, and thus was not given an answer by me. If you have a new request, please post it below. Regards, Spintendo 01:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)