Talk:Brock Blomberg

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (With recent terrorist events in France there are more searches and interest for research on the economics of terrorism. Brock Blomberg is one of the few experts in the area. Perhaps the formatting needs to better contructing but I was following pages from his less famous colleagues at Claremont McKenna like Eric Helland. How does it need to be rewritten to seem less "promotionable") --SamwitWIKIBlomberg (talk) 20:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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This page should not be speedily deleted because... (Dean Blomberg is listed on the wikipedia page Robert Day School of Economics and Finance as dean. Hence this is a hyperlink to it to explain his background) --SamwitWIKIBlomberg (talk) 21:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Sources for "Early life and education" section

Hello, Wikipedia community. I'm Tom, the chief communications officer at Ursinus College, and I created a Wikipedia account to offer suggestions and improvements to articles related to the college. I also wish to acknowledge my conflict of interest, with the hope that any requests and recommended updates are viewed in as transparent a way as possible. I look forward to working with editors to review those requests and to update the article on my behalf.

The Brock Blomberg article has an 'Early life and education' section, but I noticed some of the sentences are not entirely correct or sourced. For example, I found some references confirming he received his Bachelor of Science (not Bachelor of Arts) from the University of Tampa, and his Master of Arts and Doctor of Philosophy degrees from Johns Hopkins University. Here are the references to consider adding to the article:

• "Ursinus taps a political economist as next president" states, "Blomberg graduated magna cum laude from the University of Tampa and got his master's and doctorate in economics from Johns Hopkins University."
• "Ursinus College names economist Brock Blomberg its 17th president" states, "An El Paso, Texas, native, Blomberg received his Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Tampa, where he graduated magna cum laude. He went on to receive his Master of Arts and Doctor of Philosophy degrees from John Hopkins University, according to materials found on Ursinus's website."

Therefore, I propose replacing "He graduated from The University of Tampa magna cum laude in 1989 with a Bachelor of Arts in economics. He spent the next several years working on his Doctor of Philosophy at Johns Hopkins University.", with the following: "He graduated from the University of Tampa magna cum laude with a Bachelor of Science, then received his Master of Arts and Doctor of Philosophy degrees in economics from Johns Hopkins University."

References

Additionally, in the info box, "BA" should be changed to "BS" next to "University of Tampa". I understand editors may prefer different wording, but my goal here is to share helpful references for text lacking citations. Will someone review this request and update the article on my behalf?

Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 17:18, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bbb23: This article has received lots of edits from unregistered users, but I see you're an active editor who has worked on this page before. Might you be able to help with this request, or suggest a place to get editor assistance? Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 18:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@TY Ursinus: My edits were four years ago. I have no interest in this article. If you follow the instructions at {{Request edit}}, hopefully an editor will review your request.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:16, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I've added the template above. TY Ursinus (talk) 00:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 11-SEP-2019

  Edit request implemented  

• The requested changes were made. As the infobox |alma_mater= parameter is for linked names of the last-attended institutions of higher education, the degrees obtained therein were omitted.

 Additional changes made:

1. Items which were not referenced were either omitted or given Citation needed inline templates.
2. The list of numerous "appointments" was referenced by only one source. Ideally, these appointments ought to be referenced by the individual organizations which appointed the subject, as they are the ultimate authority on appointments and dates of appointments.
3. The list of the subject's publications were given digital object identifiers {{DOI}}.
4. Claims regarding the subject's early years as referenced by the Claremont McKenna source were insufficiently paraphrased from the source material and were omitted.
5. One instance of |deadurl=yes parameter was changed to |url-status=dead in order to clear the resulting CS1 formatting error.
6. One instance of |title=Archived copy parameter was given the item's actual title in order to clear the resulting CS1 maintenance error.

Regards,  Spintendo  04:38, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Request to remove inaccurate and misleading content

Thanks to User:Spintendo for helping above. I am disappointed to see some basic and important biographical/career details removed from the article, especially since I was just trying to fix an error and improve sourcing, but I trust you're working to make the article more compliant with Wikipedia's rules. I will try to submit some additional requests to add back some of the claims, using better sourcing.

In the meantime, I am concerned about the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section, which are inaccurate and a clear misinterpretation of the references. The text attributes issues specifically to Blomberg when actually sourcing is focused on other people or Ursinus in general. If I explain how the text is problematic, can an editor update the article on my behalf? Currently, the article says:

Current text

In April, 2016, Blomberg dismissed Terry Winegar, the dean of the college who had served as interim president prior to Blomberg's appointment. Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus, claiming age discrimination. In September, 2016, offensive tweets by board chairman Michael Marcon were circulated on campus, leading to criticism of Blomberg for not taking action. Marcon subsequently resigned from his position. In 2017, Blomberg approached journalist Juan Williams about being Ursinus's commencement speaker. A controversy erupted when faculty members learned about this, citing accusations of plagiarism and sexual harassment against Williams. Blomberg denied that a formal invitation was made, and Williams was removed from consideration. In 2018, Blomberg notified the campus community that Ursinus was obligated to self-report potential athletic financial aid violations to the NCAA. References

I've outlined how the current text is problematic below:

Terry Winegar

• The first two sentences ("In April, 2016, Blomberg dismissed Terry Winegar, the dean of the college who had served as interim president prior to Blomberg's appointment. Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus, claiming age discrimination.") are based on this reference, which does not actually say that Blomberg dismissed Winegar. The linked source is just reporting on the lawsuit that Dr. Winegar filed, in which he alleged he was fired. Actually, the source says, "Rather, Ursinus fired him because he was too old, alleged the 62-year-old Winegar." The source does confirm that Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus. I should also note, Dr. Winegar is still a psychology professor at Ursinus, so the text is not entirely accurate. A more accurate summary would look more like the following: In April 2016, former Dean Terry Winegar filed a lawsuit against Ursinus and Blomberg claiming age discrimination.

Michael Marcon

• The 3rd sentence ("In September, 2016, offensive tweets by board chairman Michael Marcon were circulated on campus, leading to criticism of Blomberg for not taking action.") is supposedly supported by this source, which mentions Blomberg but does not mention any criticism for his actions. The source says, "Brock Blomberg, president of Ursinus, said the tweets 'don't reflect the values and history and mission here at Ursinus College.' He said Marcon regrets having posted them... The case, the president said, can be used as a learning experience for everyone, from students to the board chair... Blomberg said the board is supportive of Marcon and his leadership, though not of the tweets." This source is about Marcon, not Blomberg, and the Wikipedia article's text misrepresents the source.

• The 4th sentence ("Marcon subsequently resigned from his position.") is based on this source, which confirms Marcon's resignation and mentions Blomberg in passing. The text may be factually accurate, but this "controversy" is not about Blomberg. It doesn't seem appropriate to include in his biographical Wikipedia article, since his role here is simply having commented on the situation on behalf of the institution. A more accurate summary would look more like the following: In September 2016, some people argued that tweets by the board chair were offensive; the board chair ultimately resigned from that position.

Juan Williams

• The 3 sentences about Juan Williams are based on this source, which says, "Yencho said that Williams was originally approached by Brock Blomberg... 'to gauge his interest and his availability'." This source mentions Blomberg in passing and does not suggest he was highly involved in this "controversy". The phrase "controversy erupted" is subjective and not an accurate representation of what happened, and is not supported by the referenced article. Williams was not invited to speak and thus was also not dis-invited. A more accurate summary would be along the lines of: In February 2017, journalist Juan Williams was considered for commencement speaker, but was removed from consideration when faculty and students cited accusations of improper conduct earlier in Williams' career.

NCAA

• Finally, the last sentence is supported by the college's student newspaper. Whether or not editors consider student newspapers reputable sources, this piece is more about the college and Blomberg's action as president than a personal controversy. A more accurate summary would be: In 2018, Blomberg notified the campus community that the college self-reported to the NCAA possible violations related to certain student-athletes and the financial aid packages they received.

I hope editors will agree that none of these so-called "controversies" were instigated by Blomberg and that he had little, if any, direct role. The current text presents "allegations" as facts. I propose removing the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section altogether. I understand editors reviewing this request will be skeptical, especially since I am submitting this on behalf of Ursinus College, but I hope editors will agree this contentious material is unfair.

Will someone review this request and update the article on my behalf by removing the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section? Hopefully then I can work to add back some of the career claims removed by User:Spintendo as a result of the above edit request. Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 12:38, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Sources for removed claims

Hello again. I submitted a request above to fix information about Brock Blomberg's educational background, and to add citations for unsourced text. As a result of my submission, mention of the following were removed:

• President's Council of Economic Advisors
• Federal Reserve Bank of New York
• Federal Reserve Board of Governors
• military service
• United States representative to the Economic Committee for Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC)
• investigator for the Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events (CREATE) at the USC Sol Price School of Public Policy
  

I trust these claims were removed for good reason, and thanks to User:Spintendo for reviewing and helping. I'd like to share some sources I believe are acceptable and demonstrate why these were mentioned in the article. I'm hoping User:Spintendo and/or other editors will help by adding content back into the article on my behalf:

1. First, I see there is no source for the sentence: "He became the Dean of the Robert Day School of Economics and Finance at Claremont McKenna in June 2010." This reference confirms his role as dean of the Robert Day School of Economics and Finance at Claremont McKenna. The same source confirms his role as a visiting scholar at Harvard University, as well as his work at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, International Monetary Fund, and World Bank.
   
3. If a source published by Claremont McKenna College is preferred, his role as dean of the Robert Day School of Economics and Finance is confirmed here.
   
5. I'm not sure if these are acceptable sources, but his connection to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors is also evidenced here and here, and some of his work with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York is referenced on the last page here.
6. His role with the President's Council of Economic Advisers as a Senior Economist is confirmed on page 265 of this report.
   
8. Reference #3 mentions the Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events, as does this article by the same newspaper. This page also refers to him as a "CREATE expert".
   
10. Reference #4 says, "Coming from a military family, Blomberg himself served in various capacities in the military for eight years. Additionally, he was on the faculty at Wellesley College and a visiting scholar at Harvard University." The same article says, "His other experience includes serving as a senior economist for the President's Council of Economic Advisers, the U.S. Representative to the Economic Committee for Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation and serving in various capacities in the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York."
    

Can this same source be used to add back some of these roles? More specifically, to confirm his military service, his time as senior economist for the President's Council of Economic Advisers and U.S. Representative to the Economic Committee for Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation?

I'm curious whether these references are acceptable for adding roles back into the career section. Thank you, in advance, for some clarity! And with that in mind, could either of these be used as additional sources?

• "Esteemed Alumnus S. Brock Blomberg". Zanvyl Krieger School of Arts and Sciences (Johns Hopkins University).
  

• Keefer, Philip; Loayza, Norman (February 11, 2008). Terrorism, Economic Development, and Political Openness. Cambridge University Press. p. 13.
  

Thanks once again to User:Spintendo or other reviewers. TY Ursinus (talk) 21:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2019

  Clarification requested  

• To expedite your request, kindly state each specific change in the form of verbatim statements which can be added to the article (if approved) by the reviewer, including the exact location where the desired claims are to be placed. Exact, verbatim descriptions of any text to be removed should also be described. Finally, reasons should be provided for each change. An example edit request for how this is to be done is shown below:

Edit request example

Please remove the third sentence from the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 25 miles in length." Please add the following claim as the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 864,337 miles in length." Using as the reference: Paramjit Harinath (2019). The Sun. Academic Press. p. 1. Reason for change being made: "The previously given diameter was incorrect."

• Kindly open a new edit request below this post at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed with the verbatim text and the placement locations.
• Please note: as you have already provided the reasoning in the above edit request, all that is needed now is the verbatim text and placement locations. Please ensure that the verbatim text includes the references formatted using Citation Style 1.

Regards,  Spintendo  06:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Notes

References

Resubmitting: Request to remove inaccurate and misleading content

Thanks to User:Spintendo's explanation of what the preferred format should look like. I appreciate the guidance and your willingness to help me navigate these issues. Given this feedback, I am resubmitting my edit requests regarding the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section. As a reminder of why I originally submitted those requests: I believe they are inaccurate and a clear misinterpretation of the references. The text attributes these issues specifically to Blomberg, when actually sourcing is focused on the actions of other people (or the college in general).

Extended content

Terry Winegar Can the first two sentences of the fourth paragraph under Career please be removed? "In April, 2016, Blomberg dismissed Terry Winegar, the dean of the college who had served as interim president prior to Blomberg's appointment. Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus, claiming age discrimination." Reason: This is based on this reference, which does not actually say that Blomberg dismissed Winegar. The linked source is just reporting on the lawsuit that Dr. Winegar filed, in which he alleged he was fired. In fact, the source says, "Rather, Ursinus fired him because he was too old, alleged the 62-year-old Winegar." The source does confirm that Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus. I should also note, Dr. Winegar is still a psychology professor at Ursinus, so the text is not entirely accurate. A more accurate summary would look more like the following: In April 2016, former Dean Terry Winegar filed a lawsuit against Ursinus and Blomberg claiming age discrimination. This is not an encyclopedic fact about Blomberg and should not be included in his biography. Michael Marcon Can the 3rd sentence of the same paragraph also please be removed? "In September, 2016, offensive tweets by board chairman Michael Marcon were circulated on campus, leading to criticism of Blomberg for not taking action." Reason: This is supposedly supported by this source, which mentions Blomberg but does not mention any criticism for his actions. The source says, "Brock Blomberg, president of Ursinus, said the tweets 'don't reflect the values and history and mission here at Ursinus College.' He said Marcon regrets having posted them... The case, the president said, can be used as a learning experience for everyone, from students to the board chair... Blomberg said the board is supportive of Marcon and his leadership, though not of the tweets." This source is about previous actions involving Marcon, not Blomberg, and the Wikipedia article's text misrepresents the source. Can the 4th sentence of that paragraph also please be removed? "Marcon subsequently resigned from his position." Reason: This is based on this source, which confirms Marcon's resignation and mentions Blomberg in passing. The text may be factually accurate, but this "controversy" is not about Blomberg. It doesn't seem appropriate to include in his biographical Wikipedia article, since his role here is simply having commented on the situation on behalf of the institution. A more accurate summary would look more like the following: In September 2016, some people argued that tweets by the board chair were offensive; the board chair ultimately resigned from that position. Juan Williams Can the 3 sentences about Juan Williams at the start of the 5th paragraph in Career, please be removed? "In 2017, Blomberg approached journalist Juan Williams about being Ursinus's commencement speaker. A controversy erupted when faculty members learned about this, citing accusations of plagiarism and sexual harassment against Williams. Blomberg denied that a formal invitation was made, and Williams was removed from consideration." Reason: These are based on this source, which says, "Yencho said that Williams was originally approached by Brock Blomberg... 'to gauge his interest and his availability'." This source mentions Blomberg in passing and does not suggest he was highly involved in this "controversy.” The phrase "controversy erupted" is subjective and, I believe, is not an accurate representation of what happened, nor is it a claim supported in the referenced article. Williams was not invited to speak and thus was also not dis-invited. I submit that a more accurate summary would be along the lines of: In February 2017, journalist Juan Williams was considered for commencement speaker, but was removed from consideration when faculty and students cited accusations of improper conduct earlier in Williams' career. This is really more about Juan Williams’ history and Ursinus than Blomberg. NCAA Finally, can the last sentence in the 5th paragraph under Career please be removed? "In 2018, Blomberg notified the campus community that Ursinus was obligated to self-report potential athletic financial aid violations to the NCAA." Reason: This is supported by the college's student newspaper. Whether or not Wikipedia editors consider student newspapers reputable sources, this piece reflects Blomberg’s response to the situation as a president, not any actions he initiated nor any personal controversy. Perhaps a more accurate summary might be: In 2018, Blomberg notified the campus community that the college self-reported to the NCAA possible violations related to certain student-athletes and the financial aid packages they received. I hope editors will agree that none of these "controversies," if viewed through an objective and encyclopedic lens, were instigated by Blomberg and that he had little, if any, direct role. The current text presents "allegations" as facts. Because of that, I propose removing the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section altogether. I understand editors reviewing this request will be skeptical, especially since I am submitting this on behalf of Ursinus College, but I hope editors will agree this contentious material may misrepresent these issues and is unfair to include on this biographical page.

Can someone please review this request and update the article on my behalf by removing the last two paragraphs of the "Career" section? Thank you. I greatly appreciate your consideration. Spintendo, I hope this format is what you had in mind. If not, ongoing feedback and direction is certainly appreciated. TY Ursinus (talk) 13:59, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 20-SEP-2019

  Edit request declined  

1. The reasons that you provided earlier for the changes you wanted made were that certain parts of information within the claims were incorrect, or taken out of context. In many of these problematic claims, you suggested revised text that was needed to replace these claims.
2. This revised text was not completely verbatim enough to be placed directly into the article, so I suggested that what was missing was for you to propose revised claims with the verbatim text that could be placed into the article. I then mentioned that you wouldn't need to provide reasons, as you had already provided them earlier.
3. The changes being suggested here call for the removal of content which is well-cited or where sources exist. In the previous discussions, the outright removal of claims was never discussed, only their being revised.
4. The COI editor should consider re-writing, instead of deleting, biased content that needs to be written neutrally, and should feel free to submit that rewritten content here on the talk page as an edit request at their earliest convenience.

Regards,  Spintendo  23:15, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting: Request to remove misinterpreted content about Michael Marcon

Based on User:Zaereth's recommendation at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Brock_Blomberg to reduce my above request to something easier to digest, I am resubmitting a request to remove unnecessary detail about Michael Marcon from this article's "Career" section.

The current text is a clear misinterpretation of the references. Please see problematic text in red, along with reasons for removal below:

• "In September, 2016, offensive tweets by board chairman Michael Marcon were circulated on campus, leading to criticism of Blomberg for not taking action."

Reason: This text is supposedly supported by this source, which mentions Blomberg but does not mention any criticism for his actions. The source says:

Brock Blomberg, president of Ursinus, said the tweets 'don't reflect the values and history and mission here at Ursinus College.' He said Marcon regrets having posted them... The case, the president said, can be used as a learning experience for everyone, from students to the board chair... Blomberg said the board is supportive of Marcon and his leadership, though not of the tweets.

This source is about Marcon, not Blomberg, and the Wikipedia article's text misrepresents the source.

• "Marcon subsequently resigned from his position."

Reason: This text is based on this source, which confirms Marcon's resignation and mentions Blomberg in passing. The text may be factually accurate, but this "controversy" is not about Blomberg. It doesn't seem appropriate to include in his biographical Wikipedia article, since his role here is simply having commented on the situation on behalf of the institution. A more accurate summary would look more like the following: In September 2016, some people argued that tweets by the board chair were offensive; the board chair ultimately resigned from that position.

I hope editors will agree that the text is a misrepresentation of the sources and does not belong in a biographical article about Brock Blomberg. I propose removing the last two sentences of the "Career" section's 4th paragraph altogether. I understand editors reviewing this request will be skeptical, especially since I am submitting this on behalf of Ursinus College, but I hope editors will agree, this material is unfair.

Will someone review this request and update the article on my behalf? Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 11:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done -- sorry that this took so long. MPS1992 (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting: Request to remove misinterpreted content about Juan Williams

@MPS1992: Thank you so much for helping above and for your reply at the biography of living persons noticeboard. In answer to your question: Yes, I do have remaining concerns, and I'd like to take this opportunity to resubmit a request to remove unnecessary detail about Juan Williams from this article's "Career" section.

I believe the current text is a clear misinterpretation of the references. Please see problematic text in red, along with reasons for removal below:

• "In 2017, Blomberg approached journalist Juan Williams about being Ursinus's commencement speaker. A controversy erupted when faculty members learned about this, citing accusations of plagiarism and sexual harassment against Williams. Blomberg denied that a formal invitation was made, and Williams was removed from consideration."

Reason: These three sentences are based on this source, which says, "Yencho [NOTE: that's me] said that Williams was originally approached by Brock Blomberg... 'to gauge his interest and his availability'." This source mentions Blomberg in passing but does not suggest he was highly involved in this "controversy," nor does it (accurately) suggest he played any significant role in the speaker selection process. The phrase "controversy erupted" is subjective and, I believe, is truly not an accurate representation of what happened, nor is it a claim supported in the referenced article. Williams was not invited to speak and thus was also not dis-invited. I submit that a more accurate summary would be along the lines of: In February 2017, journalist Juan Williams was considered for commencement speaker, but was removed from consideration when faculty and students cited accusations of improper conduct earlier in Williams' career. This is really more about Juan Williams' history and the college's speaker selection process than any role Blomberg played.

I hope editors agree that the text is a misrepresentation of the sources and does not really belong in a biographical article about Blomberg. I respectfully propose removing this content altogether. MPS1992, if you uncollapse the "Extended content" banner 2 sections above, you'll see I am essentially asking to have the last 2 paragraphs of the "Career" section removed. I'm happy to submit each request individually, if you prefer, but if you're willing to review how the Terry Winegar and NCAA content is also problematic, I would very much appreciate your help and guidance. And thank you, again, for assisting with the problematic Michael Marcon text. TY Ursinus (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

For the Juan Williams incident, if it was significant enough to include wouldn't it belong in the article for the college rather than the president? It's as if somebody has googled Blomberg and added this one just because his name is mentioned. It's not exactly a defining career moment is it? Rather than making TY Ursinus jump through COI hops with proposed alternate wording, can we have a discussion about whether the content even belongs here? — Pelagic (talk) 07:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

@Pelagic: Thanks for responding. I've invited User:MPS1992 to return to this discussion. Seems you're in agreement that the Juan Williams text should be removed. Do you mind updating the article on my behalf? I've outlined how the last 2 paragraphs of the "Career" section are problematic here, if you're willing to review. I'm willing to address these topics one at a time, but I understand that will likely take quite some time. As always, any help and/or advice is appreciated! TY Ursinus (talk) 19:54, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Agree with TY Ursinus' characterisation that the “source mentions Blomberg in passing but does not suggest he was highly involved … ” . Pelagic (talk) 08:40, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

For the record, the formatted citation was: Colleen Flaherty (2017-02-14). "Disinvitation Season Begins". Inside Higher Ed. Retrieved 2018-09-22., and the diff is Special:Diff/921688729. Pelagic (talk) 10:08, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting: Request to remove misinterpreted content about Terry Winegar

@Pelagic: Thank you for taking the time to consider my request and for ultimately correcting the article! As I mentioned in a previous post, there remain a couple concerns and I'd like to resubmit a request to remove other misinterpreted text. I believe there is unnecessary (and inaccurate) details about Terry Winegar I'm hoping you or another editor can remove that from the "Career" section.

Please see problematic text in red, along with reasons for removal below:

• "In April, 2016, Blomberg dismissed Terry Winegar, the dean of the college who had served as interim president prior to Blomberg's appointment. Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus, claiming age discrimination."

Reason: This is based on this reference, which does not actually report that Blomberg dismissed Winegar. The linked source is just reporting on the lawsuit that Dr. Winegar filed, in which he alleged he was fired. In fact, the source says, "Rather, Ursinus fired him because he was too old, alleged the 62-year-old Winegar." The source does confirm that Winegar later sued Blomberg and Ursinus. I should also note, Dr. Winegar is still a psychology professor at Ursinus, so the text is not entirely accurate. A more accurate summary might look more like the following: In April 2016, former Dean Terry Winegar filed a lawsuit against Ursinus and Blomberg claiming age discrimination. However, I truly believe this is not an encyclopedic fact about Blomberg, lacks context and should not be included.

I hope editors will agree that the text is a misrepresentation of the sources and does not belong in a biographical article about Brock Blomberg. I propose removing this content altogether. I've also outlined above how the NCAA content is also problematic, but I understand I may need to tackle these inaccuracies one at a time. I'm hoping User:Pelagic or User:MPS1992 can help out again. Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 16:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

You’re welcome, TY Ursinus. By the way, what was the outcome of the trial? Pelagic (talk) 07:56, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

@Pelagic: Pelagic, thank you, again, for giving this your consideration. Members of the public can find the docket concerning the lawsuit here. If you agree, would you mind removing this misrepresented text from the article? TY Ursinus (talk) 19:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting: Request to add career details

Thanks again to User:Spintendo's explanation of preferred submission format above. I am resubmitting my request to add details about the subject's career, this time with specific text and inline citations as requested here. I've tried to include newspaper articles as well as sources published by the individual organizations, as requested here. If the text proposed below is not perfect, I'm hoping User:Spintendo or another editor can make the minor adjustments needed to update the article.

Specifically, I propose replacing the first paragraph of the "Career" section ("Blomberg was on the economics faculty of Wellesley College from 1995 to 2003. In fall 2003, he joined the economics department at Claremont McKenna College. He became the Dean of the Robert Day School of Economics and Finance at Claremont McKenna in June 2010.), which ends with an unsourced sentence, with the following:

Early in his career, Blomberg served in the military for eight years, and was as a faculty member at Wellesley College and visiting scholar at Harvard University. He joined the economics department at Claremont McKenna College in 2003, then became the dean of the college's Robert Day School of Economics and Finance in 2010. Blomberg was a senior economist for the Council of Economic Advisers, and a U.S. representative to the Economic Committee for Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation. He has also worked for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Federal Reserve Board of Governors, International Monetary Fund, and World Bank.

References

My aim is to fill in the gaps in his career with these fairly straightforward, basic claims. I'd appreciate any help from editors to update the article on my behalf. I've tried to format the citations, as requested, based on the sources mentioned in my previous request. But, if any of the sources are not acceptable, there are plenty of others online to use for verification. Thanks once again to User:Spintendo or other reviewers. TY Ursinus (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Þjarkur: Thank you for helping with the below request and for providing additional clarity! I am still looking for an editor to help with this particular request, which focuses on adding back sourced career details that really are core to a biographical sketch. I'm also interested in some assistance with another resubmitted request, just above this one, which removes a sentence that, I honestly believe, misrepresents the source. To start with, might you have a moment to review the green text proposed above and update the article on my behalf? Or can you provide some guidance as to how to get this request considered more broadly? Thanks for any help in advance. TY Ursinus (talk) 21:24, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

You hadn't added {{request edit}} which notifies other editors that there is a request pending. I've added it now. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:58, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Instead of reading 11 different sources in full, please provide the text from the sources which verifies the claims so that they may be more easily scanned when reviewing; you may do this via activation of the |quote= parameter in each citation template. Please change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no when ready to proceed.

Regards,  Spintendo  06:33, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Resubmission

Hello again. Many thanks to User:Spintendo for reviewing again and for providing additional clarity! I've tried to provide specific quotes as requested:

Extended content

Early in his career, Blomberg served in the military for eight years, and was as a faculty member at Wellesley College and visiting scholar at Harvard University. He joined the economics department at Claremont McKenna College in 2003, then became the dean of the college's Robert Day School of Economics and Finance in 2010. Blomberg was a senior economist for the Council of Economic Advisers, and a U.S. representative to the Economic Committee for Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation. He has also worked for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Federal Reserve Board of Governors, International Monetary Fund, and World Bank. References

Again, my only aim here is to fill in the gaps in his career with these fairly straightforward, basic biographical pieces of information.

Thanks in advance to User:Spintendo or other reviewers who continue to assist in these requests. TY Ursinus (talk) 18:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Partially implemented The concern that the last part of this section was unreferenced ("which ends with an unsourced sentence...") has been corrected. The main parts of this passage with the positions of importance, such as that of becoming dean, are now referenced. The other positions where the subject is described as faculty, as "working", or as a "senior economist" or other such staff positions may be omitted, per WP:NOTRESUME, especially considering that the bulk of the references now used in the article appear to be articles all reporting on the same claim ("Ursinus picks new president"). Regards,  Spintendo  23:37, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Name Change

Hello again! Someone just changed Brock Blomberg's name in the introduction, and so far the change has not been reverted. Does someone mind undoing this edit, please? Thanks again. TY Ursinus (talk) 13:40, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

 Done – Thjarkur (talk) 13:52, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Names "While the article title should generally be the name by which the subject is most commonly known, the subject's full name, if known, should be given in the lead sentence (including middle names, if known, or middle initials)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.2.58.43 (talk) 23:00, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

The change was unsourced – Thjarkur (talk) 18:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Military Service

Hello again. I would like to propose a specific update to this Wikipedia article. Currently, the page says "Blomberg was born in El Paso, Texas, the son of an Army officer." However, Blomberg's own military service is not mentioned. This claim is widely reported in sources. Here are some examples:

• The Reporter says, "Coming from a military family, Blomberg himself served in various capacities in the military for eight years."

• The Philadelphia Inquirer says, "Blomberg ... served in the military for eight years."

• His biography on the Ursinus College website also mentions his military service.

There are many other sources verifying this claim. I propose adding mention of Blomberg's own military service, and adding him to Category:American military personnel. I am trying to add basic biographical information to this page, but avoiding direct editing because of my conflict of interest. Can someone please review sourcing and update the article? Thank you. TY Ursinus (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

The phrase "Blomberg himself served in various capacities in the military" is a very odd way of describing military service. The "usual" way of describing it would be to mention the branch of the military and also what portion of that branch. Those who have served are very particular about delineating their service. Here we have just a vague attribution, with a time span which is equally vague (from when to when?). The first two sources mirror each other's information — which appears to have been obtained from the subject — while the third reference is from the subject himself. My experience has been to err on the side of caution with respect to BLP's asserting military service, by requesting a reference from a reliable, independent, secondary or primary source (the military itself would work here), any source which makes clear that the information either came from the military or through rigorous examination by the journalist making that claim. Neither the Reporter Online nor the Inquirer reporters instill much faith that this was done. Regards,  Spintendo  17:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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