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British Armoured Formations of the Second World War

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if we change this to British Armoured Formations of the Second World War we could add the independent Armoured and tank brigades, which have alot of history between them. --Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent suggestion, i will make the move now.--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 20:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note for self

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In the winter of 1940–41, new armoured regiments were formed from converting the cavalry and yeomanry regiments. A year later 33 infantry battalions were also converted to armoured regiments.[1]

Piece of info that doesnt fit with article are present--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 17:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Perry (1988), p.57

Tank establishment is somewhat inconsistent

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Some of the tank establishments don't seem to add up. Looking at the 2nd paragraph under "Brigade and regiment structure" ...

"light armoured regiments each consisting of 22 light cruisers, 36 light tanks,"
and
"each regimental headquarters had four light tanks"
and
"The three sabre squadrons of each regiment consisted of two light tank squadrons, made up of five troops of three tanks and a squadron headquarters of three tanks, and one light cruiser squadron, made up of five troops of three light cruisers, and a squadron headquarters of three tanks."

So a light tank squadron has (5 × 3) + 3 light tanks = 18 and a light cruiser squadron similarly has 18 light cruiser tanks.

So the Sabre squadrons contribute 36 light tanks and 18 light cruisers to a regiment and adding the 4 light tanks from the regimental HQ we get

40 light tanks and 18 light cruisers

rather than

36 light tanks and 22 light cruisers

as stated in the text.

I have no access to primary sources, however, I can't help noticing that the numbers would come out right if the regimental HQ had 4 light cruiser tanks - and it seems sort of plausible that HQ would have the larger type of tank.

Apologies for being picky. This article is a really good piece of work.

Gmwinn (talk) 14:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. A very apt observation, Joslen states that each Regiment HQ was equipped with Light cruisers rather than light tanks. I have amended the article, along with another typo that i spotted: a missing 20 officers! I had somewhat forgot about this article, and regret not having the sources to write up a few paragraphs on the changing role of the division and a few others to complete the various other sections.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing wording in squadron description

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The second paragraph under "Brigade and regiment structure" includes the following text:

"three squadrons each made up of a squadron headquarters, of one light cruiser and two close support tanks, a light squadron, with three troops of two light cruisers with a squadron headquarters of one light cruiser, and a heavy squadron, of two troops of two heavy cruisers, and squadron headquarters of one heavy cruiser"

which seems to say that a squadron contains an HQ, a light squadron and a heavy squadron. This seems to overload the word "squadron". Is this really the correct terminology? I would have expected a different word, maybe something like "heavy section" and "light section". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmwinn (talk • contribs) 14:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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