Talk:Binod Chaudhary

His religion

Does anyone here know what his religion is? Futurist110 (talk) 00:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Futurist110, not entirely sure. I couldn't find any information about his religion. ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Binod Chaudhary/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Goldsztajn (talk · contribs) 08:37, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll take this, please be a patient, it will possibly be more than a week before I can complete the review. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 08:37, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Was able to get this done quicker than I expected. --Goldsztajn (talk) 23:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Needs copy-editing, quite a few sentences simply not grammatically correct. (eg "Cinnovation Group is one of the first highly pervasive multinational Nepali companies." "He was also a UML lawmaker before that program went defunct." "The book was called a must read for everyone.") Far too frequent use of quotes. I counted an article length of 1750 words, with 700 words in quotes – 40% of the article. Much of the material quoted is often puffery or repetitive.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	MOS - Lead The lead is weak; it should be longer. It contains information which is contradicted by the info box (how much is he worth? 1.3 or 1.7 billion?). The last sentence is very informal and contains information already conveyed in the first sentence. He is not known for being a filmmaker or a writer (he co-wrote with h Sudeep Shrestha one book about himself); he's notable first and foremost for his businesses and second for political connections/roles. MOS - Layout I don't think separating the sections between business and politics works since politics is central to Chaudhury's business interests and success. The two are entwined. He clearly is a person who can tell which way the wind is blowing and makes decisions accordingly - lining up with the royal family in the 1980s, then aligning with the political parties with the start of the Jana Andolan, then UML in the mid 1990s when they win power etc etc. I would propose sections as follows (this is more related to topic, titles would be needed): 1. Lead 2. Early life, first roles in family business, rubbing shoulders with the elite, take over of family business (1950s-1970s) 3. Start up late 70s/1980s first industrial ventures, Japanese, Thai, Royal family tie ups 4. 1990s Emerging as large business house in Nepal (move into new areas, Singapore), realignment in politics with UML, loss of FNCCI election in 1995 5. 2000s constituent assembly membership, international conglomerate - India, Bangladesh, Africa, Europe, billionaire status, putting children into roles of company, realignment with politics again joins Congress (w. subsection on philanthropy) 6. Personal Life (names of children, name of wife, names of two brothers). MOS - Words to watch An ostentation of peacocks: his most successful enterprise, he stepped in as head of the business, but I was required to do my duty, company was a huge success, After seeing Chaudhary's enthusiasm, I am proud to say, I am humbled, I see this as a recognition for the 40 years of my hard work, etc etc MOS - Fiction Not applicable MOS - Embedded Lists Not applicable
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	ok – no further comment
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Referenced the most frequently of any source (11 times), the use of Shubhanga Pandey's review is particularly problematic since the review is a critical analysis yet the work is cited for basic factoids. The text is also not properly credited to Studies in Nepali History and Society (vol 20, no 2, 2015). See more on this below. Self-published sources should be removed (in particular BinodChaudhury.com and amazon.com) A very large number of the references are incorrectly dated – the access date appears the same as the source date. I checked five showing an access date of 28 May 2019; all were incorrect. This needs to be corrected. Some sources are to the Chaudhury Group website, but the site is reprinting material from other sites – it's not clear to me that Chaudhury Group have rights to reprint press materials in full. We cannot point to sources that are incorrectly obtained or utilised. The original reference needs to be used. FWIW – aside from Wikipedia possibly being party to copyright violation, the other reason for insisting on this is it would not be surprising for a corporation to edit an article which contained information it viewed as negative.
	2c. it contains no original research.	ok – no further comment
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig shows up problems but this is due to the large use of quotes and a coding site which is mirroring text from this article.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The biggest problem here is the lack of detail on how politics and business entwined with Chaudhary's success. Take for example Pandey's text, a considered and thoughtful review of BC's autobiography. What immediately stands out is how Chaudhury used his already well established family links to the Royal Family to move from operating a disco to obtaining the first successful import licence for National Panasonic...at the same time as supporting the monarchy during the 1980 referendum on the Panchayat system. Pandey also discusses how Chaudhary got around the limits on Nepalis undertaking foreign investment by being a non-resident. It's a glaring omission that there is no mention of the Panama Papers (2016) or the Nepal Leaks (2019) stories that revealed Chaudhary family investment affairs.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Too many incidental details regarding BC (eg paragraph on his views on other prominent people is irrelevant...does one expect a South Asian billionaire to say bad things about Modi or R Tata? That would be notable!). The two paragraphs devoted to his autobiography in the Author section are mostly just puffery – it's certainly not necessary to provide three different versions of the book's title.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	The biggest problem is the sourcing; there is far too much reliance on primary material (either BC's autobiography or CG websites) or PR pieces from the press. The overall picture here is "pristine" – no mistakes, no failures, no complicated processes, just self-made success. For what it's worth, looking over the article history, it clearly was in far worse shape and a far worse piece of puffery. While there are all sorts of rumours regarding BN and the royal family, and obviously bearing in mind BLP policy, there are still reliable sources which clearly point to the relationship and its effect on his success. For example: Chaudhary sought help from Prince Dhirendra, the King’s brother, who suggested Chaudhary establish a steel company with Dhirendra as the minority shareholder. The arrangement, Chaudhary says, made him an instant success. “Suddenly I became a distinguished industrialist,” he writes. How Nepal’s Only Billionaire Made It Big
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	ok – no further comment
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	I believe at this level all pictures should have alt-text for accessibility, however, I do understand it is not considered a criteria for a good article. If you don't wish to do this, let me know, I will add myself.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Would be good if there was another image available, but understand there might not be.
	7. Overall assessment.	Unfortunately at this point in time this is a fail. BC is clearly probably one of the most important Nepali people alive today and an article about him should be of high quality. So an initiative to get this to good article status is welcome. Yet, this is an encyclopedia and we cannot simply repeat the story a powerful person wishes us to hear – this really is a case where secondary, independent sourcing is vital. There is a substantial amount of work to do on this article to get to good status. I'll add a set of sources to the talk page which I think could be useful in that regard. I think if editors focus on that material it will be possible to get this to good article status. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 23:03, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

More sources for improving the article

• On Chaudhary family history p. 283

• Interview from 2001 in Spotlight Magazine

• Trade union federation GEFONT research on business houses in Nepal with information on Chaudhury Group from 1999, obviously dated, but some information showing how not the largest business house in the 1990s

• Nepali Times on Bhutwal Power Company saga and Chaudhury Group's failed bid

• Africa investments with Taj

• Son's marriage to a Mittal Ends in Divorce

• Mother's name

• Noodles in Kathmandu Wai Wai

• Financial Times on Chaudhury, serves in constituent assembly, handing off business to sons

• Useful corporate PR overview

• "remembers stories about his father, as a child, accompanying his grandfather to sell fabrics to women in Nepal's royal family." family connection to royal family

References

--Goldsztajn (talk) 23:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Chaudhary is painted in an extraordinarily flattering light

He's clearly successful but there's not a single critical sentence. Real people tend not to be quite so squeaky clean.

I added 151 words about the Daman land grab resulting in hundreds homeless tribespeople that this billionaire currently profiting from. CAPTAIN MEDUSA deleted this stating "This is about Binod Chaudhary for the company itself add it to Chaudhary Group)"

On that basis why is there 302 words about Wai Wai noodles here rather than the Chaudhary Group page?

When billionaires profit from land grabs, this becomes at least as encyclopaedic as wai wai noodle information. I've re-tailor the text better for the page and return a 99 word reference to this incident to the page.Veej (talk) 18:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit request!

Please add Nepali Congress as his political party. Mr Chaudhary is active in politics these days. It's vital to keep it in his infobox.110.44.125.6 (talk) 16:57, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done based on this source already on the page. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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