Talk:Bella Poarch

Military career vs. Birth

How can she have been born in 2001, and joined the Navy in 2015? The minimum age for joining the navy is 17 (https://www.navy.com/joining-the-navy/requirements-to-join#:~:text=REQUIREMENTS%20TO%20BECOME%20A%20SAILOR,42%20to%20become%20an%20Officer*), but 2015 would make her 14 when she joined the navy. Mfdavies (talk) 07:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Fixed it. Her birth date was 1997, not 2001 Mfdavies (talk) 07:45, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mfdavies: I'm not so sure that is her birthday. The reference of this is to an Insider article but the article itself explicitly says her age is unclear (Poarch's age is also unclear...). When they mention in the article that she may be born in 1997 they link to the website Famous Birthdays which is blacklisted by Wikipedia itself (literally; I tried to link to it in this comment and could not until I undid the link). Something should probably be added to the article indicating her age, and her military service in extension, are in question (unless a reliable source can be found elsewhere). ––Sirdog9002 (talk) 05:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sirdog9002: Thanks for pointing this out - I removed the date of birth, since (as you've pointed out) Famous Birthdays is considered an unreliable source, per WP:RSP. - Whisperjanes (talk) 17:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Whisperjanes: No problem! I've also added a sentence to her military service that states sources have questioned it's legitimacy. I'm not very experienced with adding content to articles and the associated policies, so if you could glance at it when available and improve upon it, I'd appreciate it. ––Sirdog9002 (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Sirdog9002: The source provided for the sentence "This service has been questioned as her date of birth is not reliably known" does not question her service as being a lie, but instead seems to comment about how her claim of having served would invalidate her birth year being 2001. I have not seen many legitimate sources actually casting doubt on her claims of having served in the Navy, so unless you have any that do we should remove this phrasing. See also: WP:UNDUE. /Tpdwkouaa (talk) 20:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@Tpdwkouaa: Thank you for reaching out to me about this! After reviewing the source again, in short, I believe your anaylsis is correct. I can also see how it's mention is in conflict with WP:UNDUE. I shall remove the relevant phrasing shortly as you suggest. Cheers! ––Sirdog9002 (talk) 21:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

she reposted through her ig stories a face magazine article that says she is 24 years old, so I guess we finally know how old she is. Lexamorea (talk) 02:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Removing "biggest YouTube debut in history"

The statement that "Build a Bitch" is the "biggest YouTube debut in history" is an incredibly promotional statement and doesn't meet the policy WP:EXCEPTIONAL, so I'm once again removing it. It has no place in the lead, since it was written by the song's record label, and is therefore unreliable and self-sourced. I hope this explanation makes sense, and I welcome any other comments or questions here on the talk page. - Whisperjanes (talk) 20:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Is her real surname "Taylor"?

According to several articles, her real surname maybe "Taylor".[1][2]

In an Instagram photo of her U.S Navy uniform, her name tag says "Taylor", and according to both sources, her Facebook account URL once said "Nairee Taylor" or "Taylor Nairee". Now, I know that this likely isn't information to change her given name in her lede paragraph/infobox, but I'm wondering if someone else could find sources potentially confirming her real surname being "Taylor"? Clear Looking Glass (talk) 06:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Clear Looking Glass, you are correct, adding this information to the article would require a much more reliable sources than you have suggested. I personally have looked and found nothing. It sometimes can be a tricky process to find sources that are of high enough quality to use for this purpose. See WP:RELIABLE for guidelines as to what constitutes a reliable source for this. Hope this helps ... Johnnie Bob (talk) 01:18, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

How to request a photo added back to the page again?

The photo on this page a week or two ago was contested and looks like it was deleted. What's the proper way to request someone find a picture that complies with Wikipedia's picture policy and get it added to this article? LaceyUF (talk) 00:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

LaceyUF, the easiest thing you can do is to do what you just did, request it through the article's talk page (this page). Looking at the box at the bottom of this page, where it says "Categories: Biography articles of living people", etc., I see that the category "Wikipedia requested photographs of artists and entertainers" is already listed, meaning that a photograph has already been requested. It seems that a suitable photograph with appropriate use permissions has not yet been located for the subject of this article. Please be patient and perhaps one will be located soon. Thank you, Johnnie Bob (talk) 01:10, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Johnnie Bob, according to someone in discord, you are only allowed to use a copyrighted picture if a free picture cannot exist, not because you can't find one. Assuming this is true, do you know where I can find the intro-guide to finding images that have a compatible license with what Wikipedia requires? I'll happily do the work myself as a peculiar sense of duty compels me to treat this task with sensible urgency. LaceyUF (talk) 01:58, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

LaceyUF, you won't be able to use a non-free photo of the subject, because the subject is still living. See the "Wikipedia Plain and simple non-free content guide" at WP:PSNFCG for more on this. You MIGHT be able to find a video that has been uploaded to YouTube using a Creative Commons license and take a frame from it. Otherwise I would say just keep searching for one with a free license. Johnnie Bob (talk) 03:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Johnnie Bob, I thought that the copyright belongs to the photographer, and if a photographer takes a public photo of a celebrity, that they can release their images under any license they want? (including free licenses?) LaceyUF (talk) 03:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Good luck finding one of those. My only other suggestion is to go a public event with your camera. But don't try to pass one off as yours that isn't. It will get deleted real quick ... Johnnie Bob (talk) 03:34, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2021

Please update birthdate to consistently be February 8th 2001.

Sources: https://www.insider.com/bella-poarch-tiktok-tyga-tattoo-navy-age-military-how-old-2020-10#questions-remain-regarding-poarchs-legal-name-and-age-neither-of-which-she-appears-to-have-specifically-addressed-on-social-media-4

https://www.celeb-networth.com/bella-poarch

https://www.popbuzz.com/internet/viral/bella-poarch/age-birthday/ Its bella poarch (talk) 04:39, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. @Its bella poarch: The insider article does not make a claim on her age; they are only reporting that her age is in question. The tweet attached in said article by Bella Poarch is also written with a tone of humor, nor does it make any clarifying statement on her age. The other two sources fail to meet WP:RS with Celeb-Networth in particular having a consensus of being unreliable per WP:RSP. Have a good day! ––Sirdog9002 (talk) 05:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2021

Add her tiktok page's link, just like her youtube page is linked. Also, she has 1.9b likes, not 1.8. And 82.7M followes, not 81.8 Oriiiiii (talk) 12:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

 Partly done: I don't know if I'm just completely blanking on what the documentation for {{Infbox TikTok personality}} is saying, or if said template is broken or something else in the master infobox template is broken, but all attempts from me to get the direct link to her TikTok page to go into the infobox correctly have failed. I have, however, updated her likes and followers per said page. Per Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input., I'm setting this to answered, and anyone else watching this page can try to parse that infobox issue. —Sirdog (talk) 22:43, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Request

Please add her song samples along so people can have an insight as to what her music is like. Bella serves this she is an amazing artist 41.115.114.48 (talk) 13:11, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

She was born on 9 February

She was born on 9 February 89.179.67.107 (talk) 20:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. –Ctrlwiki (talk) 01:46, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2022

Change "Filipina- American" to "Filipina" 174.109.77.70 (talk) 00:01, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: She appears to also be American. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Is Denarie B Poarch her real name?

From what source is her birth name Denarie B Poarch? There are no sources online. Wuuluuu (talk) 09:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Wuuluu: there is a source in the early life section, the problem is, the content isn't showing. If it is showing on your device, check if there is information that states her name. —Ctrlwiki (talk) 10:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ctrlwiki unfortunately the link is broken. Are there any other sources on the web indicating that her birth name is Denarie B. Poarch? Wuuluuu (talk) 11:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we can't really find a source to prove her real name. So there is no problem if we remove it. Many websites mention her full name, but these websites are blogs, and blogs are not reliable, so we cannot know if what is stated there is fact. —Ctrlwiki (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ctrlwiki That's fair enough. Meanwhile I will update here if I find any reliable sources. Wuuluuu (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Was wondering if this could be of any significance: https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/02/03/hawaii-news/vital-statistics-387/ It would explain the surname of her military uniform saying "Taylor" and her last name now being Poarch, if she took on her husband's surname. Danareina (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

@Danareina: No name is stated on that page, and we need to log in to see the information. How do we use that as a source? —Ctrlwìkí (talk) 03:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

It states: "Each week, the Honolulu Star- Advertiser publishes Oahu statistics for marriage licenses and birth certificates filed with the state Department of Health’s Vital Statistics System." With access to the article, it further states: Denarie Bautista Taylor and Tyler William Poarch. (Of course, among names of other people as well). Danareina (talk) 04:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Poarch's real name is Denarie Bautista Taylor?

I reverted this insertion of what appears to be her real name as no source meeting the reliable sources criteria was presented to back this. (revert) Until such a source is added to the article, it is against WP:BLP policy to restore this. MPFitz1968 (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Divorce

It should be noted she cheated on her husband 75.24.123.234 (talk) 16:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

No source for this rumor is available. Please name source, if there is any. Not rumors, a solid source. 2003:CD:1F12:D700:2020:E412:C030:D0FA (talk) 09:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Nationality in lead

MOS:CONTEXTBIO says nationality for notable activities goes in lead. Birth location and ethnicity doesn't. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Bella legal name

Bella revealed her real name in a TikTok live stream today I have the recording she repeated it like 3 times. :[3] https://x.com/jamesjj_254/status/1762946282933616867?s=46&t=od6J1Lc65c2QpRxqydo1uwJamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:03, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm assuming the current name is her adoption name on the article Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

[4]https://archive.org/details/rpreplay-final-1709153599 Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:20, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Belinda Marie Macadengdeng Batumbakal Poarch, one of her viewers wrote it out Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I would edit it for real name, but I don't know how to do references / sources so I'm not getting in trouble for that. Someone else can edit her name Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

And if you follow her interviews on how she was born in Philippines but was adopted after that. Don't remember if she said she was adopted and went into the military to leave Philippines or not And from the looks of the newly uncovered name it does come across as Filipino, denarie Bautista Taylor doesn't, it sounds more American like an alias could've been her married name but no source, but Bella is probably just her stage name or Americanized name of Belinda or just a nickname alias Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

She talks frequently about her self and music on TikTok live which no one saves those videos for historic purpose like wiki Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't mean it in negative way she's just very open and nice talking to her viewers Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

How was internet archive and Bella speaking

How was internet archive and Bella speaking on her name not valid? Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 20:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

People can have dual citizenship Jamesjjohnson18 (talk) 20:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I watched the clip. She gave a name but didn't say or give a clear statement that it was her current legal name which is what goes in the intro. Might be her birth name but again I didn't get any context for what it was. Basically the source is unclear. We have other sources in the article that support her current legal name and what she stated conflicts with that. Adopted adds some uncertainty as normally adopted people get a new name to match their new parents. We presume a person is a citizen of where born and I changed infobox to match that. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I added it back as birth name. Still a bit uncertain if it really is that though. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)