Talk:Belden Namah

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While looking at this article's history, I noticed that this article was perfectly fine before Van donge's major edits to it, which were largely ungrammatical, un-encyclopedic in style, and removed all of the article's wikilinks. However, they did give a much-needed update to the article, adding seven years of information. I'm not qualified enough to address this issue. If a more qualified editor than me could resolve this problem (if there is any), and rewrite the article, it would be much appreciated.

TheOmelet1 (talk) 01:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They might have updated the article, but it's written like an essay driving an opinion rather than an encyclopedia article and the whole thing is completely unencyclopedic prose. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please take note of the following. Firstly sources: the previous editor based his comment on the role of Namah in the Sandline affair on obscure internet references. I refer in the first place to the two major books published on the Sandline affair by Mary-Louise O’Galaghan and Sean Dorney. There is no prominent role for PNG Defence Force Commander Leo Nuia in these sources as suggested in one of the references. These websites are also partial. One is a hagiographic declaration of hero status for Namah.With all respect to the previous writer of the entry, what he wrote is unlike suggested by Omet1 not above criticism. Please note how extensive I have mentioned sources. I have primarily relied on sources of which there is also a print version, preferably international publications. It is well sourced, and this meets a major wikipedia criterion. I do therefore not think that the entry is unencyclopedic. Wikipedia entries should be informative, balanced and properly sourced. My version of the entry meets these criteria. Namah is a politician who is the object of controversies. The article is not informative if these are not mentioned. I have avoided making an exhaustative account of these controversies. There are no personal accusations on my part involved. The issues dealt with are all within the public domain and not challenged in court.I have mentioned where appropriate opposing visions on events. Please read carefully for example the account of the courtcase resulting from storming the supreme court: It can be read as well as a defense of Namah as a well reasoned and understandable accusation of Namah. Similarly I have carefully written about the Bewani Oil Plant Plantation: the sources declaring it a success as well as the sources highly critical are mentioned. I do not drive an opinion in the entry but open the possibility for diverse observations. Entries on PNG have often the tendency to be meaningless collections of as facts presented information. For example, I have great respect for the time and effort that contributors spend on election results. Tallying the results of parties has however no meaning if one looses sight of the fact that party identivication in PNG tends to be ephemeral. The Omet1 does not consider himself qualified to rewrite. I appreciate his modesty, but would have appreciated more if he would have been more modest in his judgements.

The value of Wikipedia entries would benefit more from debate on information than on style. Van donge 12:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Van donge (talk • contribs)