Talk:Bay City, Michigan

High schools

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/39361 lists a John Glenn High, as does the German Wik. There used to be a Catholic school in Bay City. I believe it went through high school. I don't know if it still exists.

John Glenn High School

There is still a school called John Glenn High School. It is in the Bangor Township School District, which is adjacent to Bay City. The Catholic High School in Bay City is Bay City All Saints.

TV Stations

Asher196 : "WNEM is based in Saginaw and Flint:WBSF is based in Clio. "

The FCC page list the tower for WNEM being at

N 43° 28' 14.0" W 83° 50' 36.0"

and bay city is at

N 43° 35′ 42.18″ W 83° 53′ 19.1″ .(about 7'North 3'West of the tower)

Since Saginaw and Flint coordinates are

N 43° 0′ 36″ W 83° 41′ 24″,(about 28'South 9'East of the tower)

Saginaw and Flint are too far south to be the base town.

WBSF's tower is at

N 43° 28' 26.75" W 83° 50' 44.65"

bay city is about 7'South and 8" East of the tower.

and Clio, Michigan is at

N 43° 10′ 41″ W 83° 44′ 10″(about 18' south 6'East of the tower)

so Clio, Michigan is too far south as well.

R00m c (talk) 05:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

This is from your source: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/asrRegistration.jsp?regKey=111807 It shows the transmitter as being in Saginaw. Asher196 (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I figured out my error. Saginaw's coordinates where listed wrong on the Saginaw, Michigan page. Saginaw is at 43° 25′ 48″ N, 84° 38′ 24″ W.(3'South 12'East if the tower). I fixed the listing on the Saginaw, Michigan page.R00m c (talk) 08:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Need to add

Information on the Pere Marquette depot, info regarding the National Register of Historic Places in Bay City, and the Renovated State Theatre. Also, find the date of the opening of the Libery Bridge. Asher196 (talk) 04:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

1975 is when the Third Street bridge collapsed. I am going to guess sometime in 1978-1980 based on design and construction timeframes around here. spryde | talk 17:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The Liberty bridge opened around 1990, but I can't find a source for the exact date. Asher196 (talk) 20:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this would be a reliable source (therefore I didn't make an edit), but I found the statement "The Liberty Bridge was constructed in 1986 and has an approximate daily traffic count of 20,000 vehicles." [1] That would imply it opened the same year.--Ballpark frank (talk) 02:53, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Marvin Schur

I don't think this section should be on the page. Devoting more space to one man's story than the entire city's culture hardly seems encyclopedic. The Marvin Schur story will be forgotten in a relatively short time. WP isn't and shouldn't be a chronicler of current events. 71.236.137.8 (talk) 09:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

People will not allow this to be forgotten; that is why it has been chosen to be memorialize on Bay City's Wikipedia page. This is an event that has garnered national attention and outrage. It is also effecting a societal change and is certainly an event of some historical nature that deserves to be recorded. If you feel that the city's culture section is too short then by all means expand it. But unilaterally deleting a section of article because of you opinion prior to some degree of debate is hardly an appropriate response. Also, please create or log into your Wikipedia account so that you can sign your name to your statements. If you're going to offer a dissenting opinion that's fine. Just don't be afraid to sign your name to it. Mr Schur's death is Bay City's shame to wear.

--A. Poinçot (talk) 21:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

This is sufficiently tragic and reported widely enough that it could be its own page. It hardly defines Bay City, and at best deserves a passing mention and a wiki link to a Marvin Schur article, which is where it should be moved. Indeed, since we have the article this should be vastly cut down. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 20:14, 30 January 2009 (UTC) Stan

Totally agree and I removed the section. While tragic, this is not encyclopedic, period. Asher196 (talk) 04:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

--Material that was deleted from Marvin Schur section because it misrepresented Bay City's official statement, lacks impartially and is based on speculation;

"However, a natural gas furnace still requires electricity for the blower fan. An older, less energy efficient, furnace could easily consume more than the 10 amps of current allowed by the limiting device. It [h]as also been reported that Mr. Schur's telephone service had been discontinued, which perhaps further contributed to this very unfortunate incident." --A. Poinçot (talk) 09:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The information itself has been properly referenced and is thus separate from any consideration of the deletion of the Marvin Schur page (which was quite properly deleted). Regardless of any desire to forget, ignore, and/or cover up this occurance, it is inarguably a notable event in Bay City's history. If anyone can find a policy statement that supports deletion of referenced material I will be more than happy to remove myself from any reinsertion of this event. 71.192.250.255 (talk) 12:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

The Marvin Schur event was tragic, but he was not the only person to die as a result of limiters. The section devoted to him is intellectually dishonest. In fact he was not the first person to die last year because of the combination of cold and limiters. He should have his own article, rather than having a section devoted to attacking the city itself. The media coverage was generated because of the increased spot like on Michigan's economic situation at the time, which it turns out his death was not related to this economic down turn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.231.165.217 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 6 August 2009

Bay City, Michigan and Jason The Michigan Kid Lynch

Jason The Michigan Kid Lynch - Professional Billiards Trick Shot Artist, World Jump Champion 2008, ranked 9th in the World 2012 There seems to be quite a bit about him on the web. I thought the "cn" would be a reasonable compromise until somebody puts in a wp:rs. But I am not devoted enough to dispute this. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:23, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I have known Jason for over a decade. Jason should be listed here, he is very well known in the billiards industry. He used to write an article for Inside Pool Magazine, he is also listed on McDermott Cue's website www.mcdermottcue.com as one of their cue ambassadors as well as a RACK team member on Gospel Trick Shot Ministries Site. www.gospeltrickshot.org He serves on both the APTSA ( Artistic Pool and Trick Shot Association) and the GTS (Gospel Trick Shot Association, Inc.) board of directors. His ranking has been as high as 9th in the world, but that suffered when he missed a tournament to take care of his wife that passed from cancer in May 2013. In my opinion, he should be elected into the Bay City Sports hall of fame for his work witnessing for Christ using Billiards. He has been to Africa, Iraq and China in that capacity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 14:45, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

We need a reliable source showing that he is notable.--Asher196 (talk) 15:23, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

http://blog.mlive.com/baycitytimes_extra/2008/02/video_sterling_man_takes_aim_w.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 17:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC) http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2010/11/bay_county_toys_for_tots_on_pa.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 17:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

That doesn't really help to prove notability.--Asher196 (talk) 18:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

http://billiards.about.com/od/poolbilliardsnews/a/Trick-Shot-Indeed-Gts-Ministries.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2014 (UTC) http://www.artisticpoolplayers.com/index.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

JASON “THE MICHIGAN KID” LYNCH BECOMES NEXT “TABLE TROTTER” OF POOL!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 18:06, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

FIRST TRIP TO AFRICA

Actually, I think it goes a long way. Payne, Amy L. (February 27, 2008). "VIDEO: Sterling man takes aim with world-class trick-shot pool". Mlive/Booth Mid-Michigan. Retrieved March 4, 2014. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:08, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

2013 "Challenge the Stars". Billiard Education. Retrieved March 4, 2014. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help)

"DR. CUE" WINS U.S. OPEN "ARTISTIC POOL" CHAMPIONSHIP!". May 3, 2007. Retrieved March 4, 2014.

http://www.pro9.co.uk/html

http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/index.asp?id=17&pagetype=event_news&eventid=63&eventnewsid=19

I was referring to the first two references provided, not the additional ones added after I commented.--Asher196 (talk) 18:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't refactor all the links and citations, but I think there is enough there to establish notability, particularly in his part of the world and specialty, IMHO. We have a newbie editor here, and he/she needs some help. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

http://www.wnem.com/video?clipId=9481413&autostart=true He was one of the featured stories when Brian Wood passed away. 1:19 on the video — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 19:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

So do I add him or do you? Should I also do a Wikipedia article just about him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.14.218 (talk) 19:05, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

How do we go about adding him and get him the spot he deserves? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2C12:E1F0:C915:8A5D:D9B5:238 (talk) 17:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Murray Sutherland

Former boxing contender supposedly owns a gym in Bay City and he was known for wearing Tartan in the ring...and it is almost too coincidental with the rock band, the Bay City Rollers who also were known for their tartan; and Sutherland was born in Scotland as well.

98.207.68.146 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Jerry Leahy should be added to "NOTABLE PEOPLE":

Gerald Leo 'Jerry' Leahy, Date of Birth: October 15, 1934, in Bay City, Michigan; Pittsburgh Steelers -Tackle - 1957; Colorado State University – Tackle - Orange Bowl December 24, 1956 66.227.194.245 (talk) 01:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Notable People

Please note that the article Wikipedia:Famous_Residents, lists the following criteria:

In order for a person to be listed in the "Famous" or "Notable Residents" section of a location article, the person should meet all of the following criteria:

1. Notability. The person must be notable enough to have an article in Wikipedia. 2. Verifiability, Reliable Sources, Citation. The person must be or must have been a true resident of the location itself; not a seasonal resident; not a resident of a nearby locale or community. Such residence must be verifiable through cited, reliable sources. 3. Significance to the location. The person's notability must derive from the location OR the person must have derived the basis for their notability in that location OR the person must hold some significance to the location in general.

Kaltenmeyer (talk) 20:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Famous Residents is only an essay of a couple of editors. There are only three contributors in the article history, and its impact is listed as "Low". It is not a guideline or policy.

All of these mentioned individuals are significant, COULD have their own article, are WP:Notable enough to have articles, and are each sourced from WP:RS. In my opinion, having a WP:Red link is not controlling. While their importance may not mean much to you, their local worth and connection is important enough to be mentioned. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

This is an ongoing concern for editors. I'd have to agree with User:7&6=thirteen. These people have solid references and are locally notable. WP:USCITIES has other suggestions, though none are policy. I recently added to the Prentiss, Mississippi article, and just 3 of the 8 notable people had wiki articles, yet I felt all were important. Editors need to used their good judgement, and sometimes reach consensus on the talk page as we are. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I would note that Kaltenmeyer deleted several notable people from rochester, Michigan, but since they are not referenced yet, I let it go. This is not personal. I understand the concern. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a policy that does speak to this issue: WP:LISTPEOPLE. Unlike the essay above, it is a part of the MOS and hence policy. It says that either a person must meet the notability requirements to have an article or reliable references must be present to show that they are famous for one event, presumably in the case of this article, tied to the city. Also either reliable references must exist in their bio or must be added to the listing showing a tie to the city. So no, they don't actually have to qualify for an article, but their entry must have reliable referencing showing that they were famous for an event that ties to the community. That leaves the question of what is important enough to qualify for the exception, and the policy I referenced suggests that should be decided by consensus. John from Idegon (talk) 23:41, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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I have just added a section under Culture with a free link to Things That Go Bump In The Night Film Fest (Bump Fest). I included two references, however I'm still a little confused as to the correct markup, such that the actual URL won't be listed along with the reference display text. If anyone could help, I'd really like to see the citations consistent with the rest of the article. Thank you. --Ballpark frank (talk) 09:16, 2 November 2014 (UTC) I figured out how to suppress the URL display. Thank you. --Ballpark frank (talk) 09:58, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Fires

There have been some significant fires in the city's history. For example, the 1977 Hotel Wenonah fire: Showing of film 'Wenonah's Secret' marks the 36th anniversary ... www.mlive.com/entertainment/bay-city/inde Also fires in 1943 and maybe one around New Years in 1980?211.225.33.104 (talk) 10:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Also the Christmas fire of 1979 87.247.33.21 (talk) 12:45, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Culture: museums

www.toyandfiretruckmuseum.org211.225.33.104 (talk) 10:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Should we change the article picture?

I feel a shot of three stores on Midland St. and the marina isn't really representative of Bay City as a whole. A better shot might be a view of the downtown area from Veterans Park across the river, especially with all the new construction at Uptown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.51.154 (talk) 16:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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Updated top employers information

The list of top employers in the area on the city's official website varies from the old version currently on the page - I'm not sure how up-to-date the info is there, but here's the link if anyone wants to do some digging and updating. https://www.baycitymi.org/280/Leading-Local-Employers Michiganstateman (talk) 04:01, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Madonna

On the Wikipedia page for Madonna, it says that she was born in Bay City, Michigan. Should she be added to the list of notable people on this page. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 08:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)