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Ukrainian casualties

Other articles separate Russian and Ukrainian casualties into different sections but in this one its just says "military casualties". However, there are no estimates of Ukrainian casualties in that section. I know they took heavy casualties near the end when they were practically fighting to the last man and stubbornly resisting American calls to withdraw. Yet this is not reflected anywhere in the article and neither are other Ukrainian casualties. There isn't even an estimate in the info box anymore. Hopefully someone can fix this. Maxsmart50 (talk)

Caused by heavy casualties

who were later reinforced by many other units—including special forces and territorial defense units—in order to fill in gaps caused by heavy casualties - who added that misinformation not found in sources? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "in order to fill in gaps caused by heavy casualties" was added by RopeTricks with this edit, though you might have done the same footwork I did to locate this. Cinderella157 (talk) 11:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False. I did the footwork myself. I merely rephrased an entry made by user LordLoko on 8 December 2022. LordLoko is the user that originally entered the so-called "misinformation". The phrase "until later were reinforced from many other units in other to fill in the gaps caused by the heavy casualties." did not exist on the page until Loko's edit. I "added" nothing, I merely rewrote his pre-existing entry many days later on 15 December 2022. RopeTricks (talk) 11:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The phrasing "in order to fill in gaps caused by heavy casualties" can be directly traced to the edit I linked. Unless you can reasonably show that it occurred earlier it is not false that you introduced the phrase. If you are responding to Manyareasexpert and misinformation not found in sources, that is another issue. It is all a matter of indenting and who you are responding to. Cinderella157 (talk) 12:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LordLoko originally added the "fill in the gaps" text. Their initial entry was made on 8 December 2022, writing "until later were reinforced from many other units in other to fill in the gaps caused by the heavy casualties". That's who originally populated the article with the "misinformation". Refer to them for further inquiry, not me. RopeTricks (talk) 14:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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First sentence: Capitalize "battle" in "battle of Bakhmut". Nicp71 (talk) 00:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Per MOS:CAPS - not consistently capped in sources. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:09, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

Somehow the Russian victory mentioned in the infobox does not appear under the "Battle" section, it appears under "Aftermath-Result". This infers there was some sort of victory well AFTER the battle was over - it had nothing to do with the battle. A very strange way to represent it. 14.2.205.131 (talk) 06:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What to say result= russian victory? Slatersteven (talk) 10:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The aftermath section of an article includes how sources have analysed the result (after the event ended). There is no issue. Cinderella157 (talk) 11:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that there is a battle section that does not state which side won. You have to look elsewhere. 14.2.205.131 (talk) 12:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The TOC and the infobox tell you where to look. This conforms with P&G. There is no issue. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ajnad al-Kavkaz should be included on the side of ukraine in this battle

there is much evidence that they fought with ukrainian troops in bakhumt. btw this is not political motivated or anything.

source: https://gur.gov.ua/en/content/chechenski-dobrovoltsi-znyshchuiut-rosiiskykh-okupantiv-u-bakhmuti.html Swagmessiah08 (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]