Talk:Bachelor's degree/Archive 2011

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Greece

Nothing about Greece though even the Faroe Islands get an entry. I get the feeling Greeks aren't at all active on wikipedia.199.127.252.195 (talk) 11:53, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

France

I think the section on France needs to be revisited. The premise that US Bachelor degrees are equal to French Master degrees doesn't seem right. Reading other Wiki articles on this subject makes me think it's a bit more complex than this.--THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^TALK 19:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

In addition, it may be worth mentioning that baccalaureat in France actually means graduating from the secondary school, - it is not a university degree. I suppose the French Wikipedia, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universit%C3%A9_en_France#Formation - describes the French system correctly, so US Bachelor seems to be equivalent to French "Licence" (3 years after baccalaureat), "Master" is another 2 years after "Licence". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.209.6.40 (talk) 15:47, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

The French system of university degrees is to put it mildly a fuckup. They have a half-way bologna-comform 3-year bachelor's degree and then two sucessive 1-year degrees that together form a master's degree. A "Maîtrise 1" after a 3-year Bsc. could indeed be considered equivalent to a 4-year degree. A full Bologna Master's degree is slightly more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.252.72.61 (talk) 18:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

An entire article that doesn't even answer the question

Why is this happening? The entire article doesn't even answer the question of why and how it came to be known as "Bachelors Degree". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.11.38.122 (talk) 13:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

There is an entire article on "Bachelor" that explains this. Briefly, a "bachelor" was a beginner, unlike a "master" or "doctor," who wasn't. NRPanikker (talk) 06:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

True, however, I came to this article to find out specifically why the term is applied to a kind of academic degree, as I'm sure many people do, as it is not very common knowledge. In current parlance, "bachelor" almost always refers to an unmarried man, and while it's true that most people who attend college (especially right after high school) aren't married, I'm fairly certain there are a considerable number of married undergraduate students, particularly non-traditional students. At the very least, the article on Bachelor ought to be linked to describe the origin of the term. More preferably, this etymology should be described somewhere in the article. Tckma (talk) 21:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe that the two words (bachelor for unmarried man and bachelor for the degree name) have different etymologies. Nabu23 (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Get Rid of the Abbviations.

They're annoying as hell because:

1.) Its best to give the full title

2.) Irrelevant to people who don't know them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.29.246.211 (talk) 19:29, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Scotland

"An Honours degree, BA (Hons), (awarded as an MA (Hons) by some universities) for arts and social sciences,..." - As far as I'm aware, MA (Hons) is still different to BA (Hons) in Scotland. It is not awarded as a replacement for BA (Hons), it just happens to be a different degree attained. Can anyone shed some light on this? Joshua Lee ^{talk softly, please} 05:14, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Restructuring article

This articles quite a mess and is way too long, so I'm going to do some editing and make it both easier to understand and smaller. I'll come back and report on what I've done when I'm finished with it! :) Joshua Lee ^{talk softly, please} 18:10, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, here's what I've done:

Moved sections so that they are divided into differences between place and differences between subject.
Renamed degrees by subject rather than abbreviation. Abbreviations were moved into the text.
Adding "main" links in sections and pairing down their descriptions

...and I'm still trying to think of things to make it better. Joshua Lee ^{talk softly, please} 18:34, 20 December 2011 (UTC)