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Continuous vandalism
[edit]A certain user has continuously vandalized this article, with me having to hit three full reverts in order to keep it in decent standing. I also requested semi-protection for this article. L337m4n (talk) 00:18, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- This user has completely lied about my actions of vandalization. I tried being in good faith with this user, but they won't go into detail about why other it's than vague claims of vandalization when I don't think this user knows what that means and are just using jargon. I can make concessions on potentially unreliable sources, but everything I've done has been to try and improve it. I do not want any problems. If I made a mistake I sincerely apologize. Jarebare821 (talk) 03:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the random inclusion of "it's." Minor spelling mistake Jarebare821 (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've addressed the issues and they keep on reverting the article and reporting me for "vandalizing." I removed unreliable sources and improve them. I removed a source that leads to a privacy warning. I've added more information the infobox about genres and associated acts. They said I broke the "three-revert rule" and they're exempt from it because they're reverting "obvious vandalism" when it seems like their abusing rules to intentionally disrupt progress in addressing issues. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: You have continuously added unsourced and unsupported content to the article. At this time, there is no reliable source that proves Austin's birthdate. Associated acts should only be added per WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH and Template talk:Infobox YouTube personality#Associated acts without their own Wikipedia article?. L337m4n (talk) 17:34, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I can concede on the date of birth, but dot esports is a reliable source. Although I would like to know the source for Austin's home town. I can't find seem to find any information on that. Regarding the associated acts I thought would be fine to include them considering they're routinely mentioned in the the article and other creators pages like Ludwigs also have associated acts without wikipedia articles. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also the creator Hasan Piker does have a Wikipedia article and they frequently collaborate together as mentioned in the article. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also he only did one livestream with Wiz Khalifa. By that same logic celebrities like LIl Nas X and James Charles should also be in the category of associated acts Jarebare821 (talk) 17:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- The date birth of 1994/1995 also doesn't seem to have a source. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: If you found Dot Esports to be a reliable source, then you should've cited it. Also, associated acts have to do with partnerships and/or collaborations, it doesn't matter if they only collaborated once. Austin was not a partner of any of the Love or Host contestants during the show, they were simply contestants. L337m4n (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- In my personal opinion that seems like a stretch. The contestants are collaborating with Austin to do a show. Also I feel like having Wiz Khalifa being apart of associated acts gives the reader a false sense that Austin frequently collaborates with him. So Hasan is not an associated act even though they've done shows, streams and podcasts together and is a frequent member of Hasan's broadcast and close friend. While Wiz Khalifa a famous celebrity is because they did a charity stream together? Jarebare821 (talk) 18:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: Associated acts should only be added to the infobox if they are included in the actual article and have an article themselves. Also, by that logic, shouldn't we also add the entire Love or Host roster (again, WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH and Template talk:Infobox YouTube personality#Associated acts without their own Wikipedia article?)? I know, Fandom probably isn't the best source, but do you see my point? L337m4n (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I literally did that though. I included people mentioned in the article. I'm not advocating for every person to be included. You can remove Will Neff and JustaMinx if you want although it really wouldn't make sense not to include them because to the average reader it wouldn't make sense that a rapper who he did one stream with is there, but not two creators he has an actual show with. Jarebare821 (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think we try to make articles make the most sense to the average reader and not us editors who have very specific set of arbitrary rules. Jarebare821 (talk) 19:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: I agree, we should definitely make more sense of the associated acts; however, we also have to consider Wikipedia's guidelines, including the ones I cited. L337m4n (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. I don't think we have really anything else to argue. I hope you finally understand where I'm coming from. Next time you have a disagreement with an editor don't immediately go to an administrator and report them. Try to be more charitable and thorough like you were here. I hope you have a good rest of your day and goodbye :) Jarebare821 (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: Okay. I still think the birthdate isn't notable, and the "citations needed" templates should still be present, but the associated acts thing we can work on with an admin. Thank you for your contribution. L337m4n (talk) 20:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed. I don't think we have really anything else to argue. I hope you finally understand where I'm coming from. Next time you have a disagreement with an editor don't immediately go to an administrator and report them. Try to be more charitable and thorough like you were here. I hope you have a good rest of your day and goodbye :) Jarebare821 (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: I agree, we should definitely make more sense of the associated acts; however, we also have to consider Wikipedia's guidelines, including the ones I cited. L337m4n (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think we try to make articles make the most sense to the average reader and not us editors who have very specific set of arbitrary rules. Jarebare821 (talk) 19:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I literally did that though. I included people mentioned in the article. I'm not advocating for every person to be included. You can remove Will Neff and JustaMinx if you want although it really wouldn't make sense not to include them because to the average reader it wouldn't make sense that a rapper who he did one stream with is there, but not two creators he has an actual show with. Jarebare821 (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: Associated acts should only be added to the infobox if they are included in the actual article and have an article themselves. Also, by that logic, shouldn't we also add the entire Love or Host roster (again, WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH and Template talk:Infobox YouTube personality#Associated acts without their own Wikipedia article?)? I know, Fandom probably isn't the best source, but do you see my point? L337m4n (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- In my personal opinion that seems like a stretch. The contestants are collaborating with Austin to do a show. Also I feel like having Wiz Khalifa being apart of associated acts gives the reader a false sense that Austin frequently collaborates with him. So Hasan is not an associated act even though they've done shows, streams and podcasts together and is a frequent member of Hasan's broadcast and close friend. While Wiz Khalifa a famous celebrity is because they did a charity stream together? Jarebare821 (talk) 18:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: If you found Dot Esports to be a reliable source, then you should've cited it. Also, associated acts have to do with partnerships and/or collaborations, it doesn't matter if they only collaborated once. Austin was not a partner of any of the Love or Host contestants during the show, they were simply contestants. L337m4n (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- The date birth of 1994/1995 also doesn't seem to have a source. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also he only did one livestream with Wiz Khalifa. By that same logic celebrities like LIl Nas X and James Charles should also be in the category of associated acts Jarebare821 (talk) 17:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also the creator Hasan Piker does have a Wikipedia article and they frequently collaborate together as mentioned in the article. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I can concede on the date of birth, but dot esports is a reliable source. Although I would like to know the source for Austin's home town. I can't find seem to find any information on that. Regarding the associated acts I thought would be fine to include them considering they're routinely mentioned in the the article and other creators pages like Ludwigs also have associated acts without wikipedia articles. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jarebare821: You have continuously added unsourced and unsupported content to the article. At this time, there is no reliable source that proves Austin's birthdate. Associated acts should only be added per WP:ASSOCIATEDWITH and Template talk:Infobox YouTube personality#Associated acts without their own Wikipedia article?. L337m4n (talk) 17:34, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've addressed the issues and they keep on reverting the article and reporting me for "vandalizing." I removed unreliable sources and improve them. I removed a source that leads to a privacy warning. I've added more information the infobox about genres and associated acts. They said I broke the "three-revert rule" and they're exempt from it because they're reverting "obvious vandalism" when it seems like their abusing rules to intentionally disrupt progress in addressing issues. Jarebare821 (talk) 17:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the random inclusion of "it's." Minor spelling mistake Jarebare821 (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Requested opinions on current consensus
[edit]@Deepfriedokra and Jpgordon: Jarebare821 and I have come to an agreement that we'll fix the associated acts and that I should've been a bit tamer in my edit summaries; however, I'm not exactly keen on keeping the birthdate and removing the "More citations needed" template (H:TEMPREMOVE). As I explained to Jarebare, I couldn't find any reliable sources that prove Austin's birthdate. Also, while he may be notable, this article lacks citations of reliable sources, which is why I kept reverting Jarebare's edits in the first place. I'd like both of your opinions on this matter, thank you. :) L337m4n (talk) 21:13, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Birthdate
[edit]His official website here has a biography section which states he was born November 12, 1993. Perhaps possibly worth citing for birthdate/year? --Drown Soda (talk) 02:04, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- thats definitely not an official website, and it copies text from this wiki article --jonas (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
first off you can't be more than one sexuality so you can't be both bisexual and gay. Second off if you gay you can't also like the opposite gender 184.181.66.128 (talk) 22:39, 10 July 2023 (UTC)