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New Apple I info Slashdotted

Can someone grab the audio file and cassett pic from http://www.pagetable.com/?p=32 and post it here. Looks like its significant to this article. Lostwars --68.83.91.35 (talk) 14:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Could someone fix the formatting?

I show the sidebar on the right as slightly overlapping the text. I am using Firefox 1.5.0.6. Will 05:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I put in a section break before the Reference section. I don't know if that helps you, but on Internet Explorer, it prevents the sidebar from overlapping into the References section in a visually unappealing way. Edu-Ward 18:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

PET vs. Apple I

The apple clearly wasn't the first computer to be useful 'out of the box'. It wasn't sold with a monitor or a keyboard, or some kind of storage input device such as a cassette drive. Therefore, the first "Works out of the Box" computer was the PET, unveiled 6 months before the Apple II and a few months after the Apple I.

Apple I current price

An original Apple 1 computer sold on eBay for $17,950 on October 3, 2009. Item number 320431509242 -- SWTPC6800 (talk) 03:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Keyboard

Is it true that the Apple 1 still needed a keyboard to connect with? Why is that? I mean if you look at the picture in the article, that computer appears to have a built-in set of keys on its surface. 121.58.216.46 (talk) 13:53, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

After having a look in Apple Inc., I found that the Apple I which has a built-in keyboard on its surface is actually a remodelled version made by someone who purchased a unit. I wonder if there are any pictures of the Apple I in its original form? 121.58.216.46 (talk) 23:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

minus the wooden board, transformers and fan

Function

Would it be possible to address what the computer could do, and what users did with them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.123.101 (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


An Apple 1 just sold for $212,000

Read here: http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_16695428?source=rss 98.118.62.140 (talk) 05:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Satanism comment

I haven't read the Steve Jobs biography, so maybe someone could provide a reference, but the statement in here is that Steve Wozniak was a satanist. This is a pretty substantial claim, and since it is cited as the reason for the price of the original computer, is relevant to the article. That said, the claim must have a substantiating source. I've seen several pages' previews from a Google search, but none from websites that I would venture to visit from work. If there is no good source for this statement I submit that it should be removed. Without a source, all it does is make an unverifiable claim that smells of vandalism. Daytonduck (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Neither Jobs nor Wozniak are or were satanists. Wozniak originally wanted to sell it at cost, but Jobs wanted to make a profit, and chose a price that allowed for a 33% markup over the $500 wholesale price. Neither knew the significance of 666 in Revelation. Wozniak later recalled that he liked "repeating digits" and that the phone number for his dial-a-joke service was 255-6666. Or so it is written in Jobs' biography. WTF? (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
It's not vandalism the original price was $666.66 2601:C:5600:27B:9A3:A075:2A97:D9F4 (talk) 18:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)Johnnie DeHuff

release date

The info box lists a released date of April 11 but the article states July 1976. Is the former when the design was finalized? What is the preferred date to use? For example, most items such as records and movies will use when they go on sale. 22yearswothanks (talk) 19:32, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

@ the computer history museum

https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AApple_1_computer_at_the_computer_history_museum.jpeg feel free to migrateVictor Grigas (talk) 04:38, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Hardware description

I dearly miss a description of the hardware. A 6502 cpu seems to have been used, like in the Apple ][ , but what was its clock frequency? How much ROM/RAM were present? Was the RAM SRAM or DRAM? &c &c ... Jan olieslagers (talk) 14:35, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Another Apple I at an e-waste story?

A guy at the ACCRC told me in conversation pretty much exactly the same story back about 10 years ago. Someone dropped off an Apple I and toddled off. - Richfife (talk) 04:24, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

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infobox image

Any reason the infobox shows the custom wooden cased Apple I? The actual Apple I was only sold as a bare motherboard, I think a more appropriate image would be the image of the bare board used further down in the article. Readers may mistake the current lead image with the wooden case as being how the device was sold. TarkusABtalk 20:04, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

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Character set merger

Should Apple I character set be merged into this? – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:12, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Support:Merge the article according to context in WP:MERGEREASON--PATH SLOPU 10:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
It's an entirely unreferenced sub-stub - nothing we can be sure is reliable to merge. Boleyn (talk) 16:18, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

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Apple

Apple first computer 103.42.1.75 (talk) 09:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect name: it's "Apple 1," not "Apple I"

As far as I can tell, Apple never used the roman numeral, "Apple I," but always the number, "Apple 1" in contemporary documentation. The Apple-1 Operation Manual refers to the system as "the Apple Computer" in the text; on the cover it's "Apple-1" and on the schematics it's "Apple~1." This page should be renamed to match Apple's contemporary usage. Cjs (talk) 05:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Apple 1 was designed and made by Steve Wozniak.

Apple 1 was designed in Steve Job's house not the garage, they later moved their and created in the garage 2601:205:C200:D0D0:F538:7B66:4E60:7AFA (talk) 20:39, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hardware description 2

This article is severely incomplete, as Jan olieslagers mentioned already in 2016. It covers the subject almost entirely like a collector's item, rather than a technical capabilities overview, like with almost every early home computer article. CapnZapp (talk) 19:53, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

CapnZapp-I've added an Overview section that attempts to describe the hardware more completely. Anything you think is missing?--agr (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. However, even in its current state, if I compare this article's table of contents to that of, I don't know, let's pick Apple II; there is only one section here that even starts describing the hardware (Overview) while there are nine (9) in the Apple II article. I understand Apple I is significantly more collectable, but this is Wikipedia, and not some collector's site. (I'm thinking of WP:NOT here) - I do not find it encyclopedic to devote much more space to collector details than to the history of Apple I development, its significance for computer and corporate history, its technical capabilities and shortcomings and so on. In other words, I have tagged this article because it does not treat its subject like other home computers of its era. Best regards, CapnZapp (talk) 08:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

You're right, it looks like there's way too much here about how valuable the board is. Article sections by word count:

(Lead)
History
Overview
Collectors' item
Serial numbers
Museum displays
Replicas
Emulation
(Appendices)



It is certainly worth saying that they are valuable, but this much may be an NPOV problem. This article looks like an auction house brochure. I'm going to try to cut it down and expand the hardware description to the best of my ability. 3df (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm inclined to remove the tag requesting more information about the Apple 1's capabilities. I'm not sure what more there is to say. It could run Integer Basic and play some simple games. Any objection?--agr (talk) 16:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
I think that's alright to remove now! 3df (talk) 22:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Done--agr (talk) 16:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 5 January 2023

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– The computer was only ever called "Apple 1" in the original manuals and all other original product literature that I've been able to find. The "Apple I" designation appears to be a later retronym derived from the Apple II after its appearance a couple of years later. The current "Apple I" page and "Apple 1" redirect page need to be swapped. Cjs (talk) 00:07, 5 January 2023 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Ammarpad (talk) 06:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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