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On the Guarneri page it states that Andrea Guarneri left the Amati workshop between 1646 and 1650. On this page I have not mentioned this, simply saying that he started his apprenticeship in 1646 and left definitively in 1655. Although the Guarneri page has no references for these dates, I presume the information has been gotten from the Hill book The Violin Makers of the Guarneri Family, as I did mine. The Hills found only that Andrea Guarneri's name was listed in the Amati house up to 1646 and mentioned again in 1650. Given the inconsistencies of the census at that time, and that he did not show up in any other census in any other house, combined with Hill's statement that his work continued to be present in Amati violins throughout the 40's and 50's, I do not feel convinced that he ever left the Amati household, or at least the workshop. Perhaps he took lodging somewhere else, but what is important is his presence in the workshop and continued tutelage by Nicolo Amati. Because the evidence is inconclusive, I have not changed what has been written on the Guarneri page, however I did want to account for the inconsistency. Chickpeana (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]