Talk:Al-Hamra, Baysan

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Sharon reference

User:Al Ameer son, I have some problem with the Sharon reference, I’m not sure it is this place...or Baysan. Sharon refers to CIAP 2, 228 - 233 for more about the khan. Now, CIAP 2, 228 gives grid number 196/213 for Khan al-Ahmar, and that is in the northern outskirts of Baysan. In fact, you can clearly see Khan al-Ahmar noted there on the SWP Map 9. User:Zero0000, what do you say? Huldra (talk) 21:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also note, that the Khan al-Ahmar at grid number 196/213 is of course not identical with Khan al-Ahmar. We probably should have a dab notice there, Huldra (talk) 23:57, 3 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, this place at 196/203 is not the same as 196/213, even though Sharon discusses the name Hamra also for the latter. Khan al Ahmar 196/213 is on 1940s maps just above Baysan. This place at ~~196/213~~196/203 does not appear as a village on maps at all, but instead the name of the tribe El Hamra is written across the region. It is the usual annoying habit of official maps to not mark bedouin encampments even if they are very large and have been in the same place for a long time. Zero^talk 01:57, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You mean "This place at 196/203"? And I was wondering if Hamra was a name used in association with Baysan? I haven't found it anywhere, however. Btw, Khan al-Ahmar is around 181/133. Huldra (talk) 20:33, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I corrected my text. Also: in Sharon's text about 196/213 (not the place in this article) there is mention of the name al-Hamra in the next few pages. I could see them yesterday but they are hidden today. 196/213 is very close to Baysan, I'm not sure what additional Baysan connection you are looking for. Zero^talk 12:58, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]