Talk:Ahn Chang Ho

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Place of Death

He did not die at Kyungsung University. He died in Keijō Imperial University (in Korean pronounced Kyŏngsŏng Imperial University) which is now Seoul National University. Both the Japanese and Korean versions of this article have it right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Konamaiki (talk • contribs) 01:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy?

I have moved the following out of the article and into this discussion page.

"==Dosan controversy=="

"Unfortunately, the Dosan statue is involved in controversy because the main organizier Mike Hong or Hong Myung Ki is the son of Hong Chan who is listed in the Wikipedia section on pro-Japanese Collaborators in Korea. Hong Chan became one of the richest men in Korea through his work for the Japanese. While Dosan was in jail Mike Hong's father was making money showing pro-Japanese propoganda films in his movie theaters in Korea during the Japanese Occupation. It appears Mike Hong used Dosan when he intitated the Dosan Memorail Foundation of Riverside to hide his family history. Hong Chan was also a close commrade of Korean dictator Syngman Rhee. After 1945, Rhee's political thugs assisted Hong Chan in creating Anyang Films. Rhee hated Dosan and was responsible for his arrest in 1932 and also had an influence in Dosan not being released from prison in 1937 which lead to Dosan's death. Hong's involvment with Dosan and the manipulation of Dosan's legacy by Hong's brother-in-law John Suh or Suh Jong Il have been detrimental to the truth about Dosan."

The above material is unreferenced and unverified. The above was not my contribution, but rather than deleting it outright, I leave it to fellow editors to confirm or reject.--S. Rich 06:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

A lot of this has been stated by surviving family members of Ahn, particularly his grandson, Flip (son of Susan Ahn-Cuddy).

174.135.5.216 (talk) 06:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)A. Bond 21 Nov. 2015[reply]

Ahn Changho

Source:

[1], [2], [3]
[4].

But sometimes he lettered his surname An [5] or Hen [6] (only once) instead of Ahn. Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 16:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Submarine

Should there not be a mention of a South Korean submarine being named after him?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.114.63 (talk) 17:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First married Koreans in the US in 1902?

This is the source listed for that claim: https://web.archive.org/web/20030606041728/http://www.gkn-la.net/dosan_resources/dosan8.htm

I don't see where it says that.

Moreover, Korean immigrants had been coming since the 1880s:

The immigration of Koreans can be largely divided into three periods: the first wave from 1903 to 1949, the second wave from 1950 to 1964, and the contemporary period. Although a few students and politicians came to the United States around 1884 after the diplomatic relations between the United States and Korea were established, they were a small minority—Yu Kil Chun (1856-1914), the first Korean student in the United States, was one of the prominent immigrants during the 1880s. Beginning in 1884, American Presbyterian and Methodists missionaries successfully converted many Koreans to Christianity, and also provided avenues for the Koreans to immigrate to America—almost half of the first group of Korean immigrants were Christians.[1]

Source: https://sites.bu.edu/koreandiaspora/issues/history-of-korean-immigration-to-america-from-1903-to-present/

Which in turn points to this book as the source: for that site's claim: [1] Choy, Bong-Youn. Koreans in America. Chicago: Nelson-Hall, 1979.

I doubt that Koreans arrived unmarried for 20 years. I could see them being the first married Koreans at the start of the wave in the early 1900s, but that ignores the smaller groups of Koreans who had arrived earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.57.96.113 (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw this; around a month after your comment I unknowingly added some more sources to that claim. Here's another one with the same claim.

https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/browse-by-topic/diversity/asian-americans-pacific-islanders-in-the-navy/susan-ahn-cuddy.html

I agree that the claim needs further research. While the Ahn couple does have very low passport numbers, maybe the previous emigrants didn't have passports or the passport numbers restarted at some point. toobigtokale (talk) 19:48, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Date format

Hi,

While the majority of Korea-related articles use DMY date format, I recommend we use MDY for this one. Reasoning is because of MOS:DATETIES; Ahn is strongly tied to the US. toobigtokale (talk) 17:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article title

Current article title is "Ahn Changho", I suspect it should be "Ahn Chang Ho".

Remember that we determine article titles based on guidelines set out in WP:TITLE. Note that WP:COMMONNAME tends to be the most powerful rule. Also note that "official" spellings of his name may not be the best title for the article if reliable English language sources widely prefer another spelling.

Ngrams is showing that the most common spelling used is Ahn Chang Ho. This has the added bonus of aligning with several official spellings, including the Dosan Ahn Chang Ho Memorial Interchange. Also used by USC, the Korean Culture Center in NYC, the KNA Memorial Foundation, Heungsadan, and more. I'll go ahead and make the move, but please discuss if disagree. toobigtokale (talk) 02:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]