Talk:Age and health concerns about Joe Biden

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Grammatically speaking, shouldn't it be Age and health concerns about Joe Biden? The word "of" suggests that these are his personal concerns. Also, there was an article Health of Donald Trump, so perhaps this should be titled Health of Joe Biden? Abductive (reasoning) 09:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to change to either Health of Joe Biden or Age and health of Joe Biden after the AfD has completed. I think the title should mention age as that seems to be the main issue - this is different to Trump, where there is more speculation on physical/psychological health concerns on top of the age concerns. GnocchiFan (talk) 11:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Abductive (reasoning) 12:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that grammatical bit is technically correct, however, while it does look as though he's not concerned himself, it seems like he ultimately is, even if he appears not to be, and I think it was intended and understood that "of" was meant in the sense of "having to do with". If you change it to "about", that could mean "age and concerns around Joe Biden", which could widen the scope of the conversation so as to make it less precise and accurate than you intend. Tyrekecorrea (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that “of” seems really weird… 86.31.178.164 (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the AfD is over, I have moved this article. GnocchiFan (talk) 20:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate space for reference?

Hello, I just added a reference at the end of the article’s overview. Since there were no other references in that paragraph, I wondered if that was the right place for this reference. Before I added the reference, the information in the second paragraph was unsourced. 76.170.142.83 (talk) 03:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary page

You can write the contents of this page on the Joe Biden page, but no, there has to be a separate page for every little thiny thing. The site is completely unnecessary. Cenbutz1 (talk) 08:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree. This doesn't need to be its own article. It's an aggregate of current news, doesn't provide new information, and is filled with speculation. I further don't see how future information could add enough to justify this pages current existence.

It should be merged with his personal article or simply deleted. Viiz1 (talk) 20:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

agree Thingsomyipisntvisable2 (talk) 20:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page is absolutely necessary, and should not be deleted. Joe Biden is the oldest president in U.S. history and was literally forced to drop out because of age and health concerns. That has never happened before, and there will be many articles mentioning concerns about his age and health. This article is going to give a detailed and thorough review on the topic, will be useful for linking, and will make a great reference point for readers now and in the future. Bobtinin (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Is the infobox here necessary? My edit removing it was reverted by @Stranger43286 with the reason that Age and health concerns about Donald Trump also has one, even though it currently doesn't. I'd argue that neither article should have an infobox, as it doesn't really add anything. – MW_(t•c) 18:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Midnite Wolf When I saw same article about Trump last time, It had infobox. I also think Infobox is useless, but I try to match it. BangladeshiStranger🇧🇩 (talk) 10:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would you agree that neither article should have an infobox then? – MW_(t•c) 16:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The Midnite Wolf Yes. Also I removed Infobox. BangladeshiStranger🇧🇩 (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Section for Age/Health Concerns during 2020 Election

I believe the article should include a section detailing concerns that were publicly raised about his age and health before he became President, starting with the 2020 Democratic primaries. And given that this article already begins its background section by mentioning Trump's age related attacks towards him during the 2020 general election, we could also expand on that in this new section. The goal would be to make it similar to the election section that was created in the Trump article. Thoughts? Bobtinin (talk) 15:37, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wall St. Journal article from December 19, 2024

This alleges that the problems were present during his entire Presidency. It could be helpful to improving the article. It is behind a paywall.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839

The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Former CNN commentator Chris Cillizza: "An apology about my Joe Biden coverage"

This is an opinion, and it's from his YouTube channel. I know that YouTube is questionable as a source, but this is definitely his real opinion. I think this can be cited specifically as opinion. What do others here think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQKveT8Bzo

The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 18:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to change the name of the article

This is no longer just about "concerns" that Biden might be sick. It's now about at attempt to hide his condition from the public. I suggest the name be changed to "Joe Biden health cover up" or some other similar name. What do others here think? The Last Hungry Cat (talk) 21:26, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the current title is somewhat odd, but I'm not sure "cover up" should be used in the article title. GnocchiFan (talk) 14:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]