Talk:Adolf Schiffer

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Czech? REALLY???

Hungarian Wikipedia has Adolf Schiffer born in Apatin, today's Serbia. as son of Samuel Schiffer and Theresa Fischer. He allegedly went straight to the Budapest Music academy to study with Popper. No mention of Prague. David Popper, his teacher, who was from Prague, got a teaching position in Budapest. The Hungarian site has a source I do not find on the English site: A Hungarian Jewish lexicon from 1929, where Schiffer is mentioned with otherwise correct information as to his teacher and birth years: Magyar zsidó lexikon. Szerk. Ujvári Péter. Budapest: Magyar Zsidó Lexikon. 1929. Schiffer. o. Could Schiffer's alleged Praguean descent have been confused with Popper's?

Yes, even the Czech's treat them as Apatin-born, corrected.(KIENGIR (talk) 06:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC))[reply]

- Shouldn't we investigate the notion that he was Czech? It doesn't make sense. The Jewish Hungarian lexicon has him move from his home town in South Hungary, now Serbia, to Budapest, to study with Popper, and becoming a teacher there himself in 1900. He also was part of the Kemény-Schiffer string quartet, which was founded, according to Wikipedia, by violinist Rudolf Kemény after having played in the Hubay-Popper quartet earlier. Kemény was also a teacher in Budapest. Schiffer married in Budapest in 1920, died in 1950, with addresses clearly given. When should he have been in Prague? His younger brother was born in 1885 in Osijek, and returned there after WW1, according to the same 1929 lexicon. Osijek is now in Croatia, but in the same region as Apatin (35 miles distance). Since I found nothing that links Schiffer to Prague except an alleged mention by Ognjen Kraus (1998, p. 244), which entry I could not check, but which work seems to be about Jewish life in Croatia and Zagreb (which is the region where Osijek and Apatin are), I strongly suspect an error - perhaps some author mistakenly attributed the Czech nationality of the teacher (Popper) to the student (Schiffer). Entrance by René Schiffer, Cleveland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.54.51.131 (talk) 07:35, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]