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A fact from Axa Equitable Center appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 September 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that for the construction of the US$200 million Axa Equitable Center, the Equitable Life Assurance Society spent $7.5 million on artwork?

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The result of the move request was: uncontested move. DrKiernan (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AXA Center → AXA Equitable Center – This is the accurate name of 787 Seventh Avenue. 24.103.42.39 (talk) 15:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 23 October 2013

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 20:20, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AXA Equitable Center → AXA Equitable Building – Building official website uses this name^[1]. Relisted. BDD (talk) 19:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC) 141.191.20.1 (talk) 16:28, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose. The official name has little relevance, see the article naming policy. Andrewa (talk) 06:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 05:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Axa Equitable Center

... that for the construction of the $200 million Axa Equitable Center (pictured), its namesake spent $7.5 million for artwork? Source: Gottlieb, Martin (September 21, 1984). "Equitable Life Will Mix Art and Commerce". The New York Times.
- ALT1:... that for the construction of Axa Equitable Center, its namesake spent $7.5 million for artwork, including a reported $3.1 million for a single set of murals? Source: Gottlieb, Martin (September 21, 1984). "Equitable Life Will Mix Art and Commerce". The New York Times.; Dunlap, David W. (February 14, 1984). "Equitable Purchases Benton Mural 'America Today,' Keeping It in the City". The New York Times.
- ALT2:... that for the construction of Axa Equitable Center, its namesake was said to have "heeded Horace Greeley's dictum, 'Go West'", despite merely moving next door? Source: "East side, west side ..." (PDF). Architectural Record. 171: 55. May 1983.
- ALT3:... that the size of Axa Equitable Center's main entrance atrium, an 80-foot (24 m) cube, was influenced by a commercial holdout? Source: Hinds, Michael Decourcy (February 9, 1986). "Equitable Seeks Park Ave. Rents On Seventh Ave". The New York Times.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Filmed Before a Live Studio Audience
Comment: more hooks pending

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough, long enough, no copyvio, well sourced. The hook is inline-cited and interesting. Good to go. Htanaungg (talk) 07:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Htanaungg: which hook? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:52, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Theleekycauldron, original hook is ok. 👌 Htanaungg (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 to T:DYK/P1 without image

GA Review

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Reviewer: A. C. Santacruz (talk · contribs) 21:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments

Source 1 does not load for me.
Just as an aside, Hemingway Editor marks 24 of the 38 sentences in the Design section as hard to read. I'd agree with that, and recommend making the section more concise. Some measurements, for example, might be too detailed for the scope of the article.
- I've actually tried to use this before, but it makes very weird suggestions like substituting "Equitable" for "Complex". In fact, I was able to downgrade the difficulty for a lot of sentences by substituting a placeholder name instead of "Equitable". Nevertheless, I have trimmed some of the more minute details. Epicgenius (talk) 00:03, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I agree with your reservations on Hemingway (I dont use it myself), just thought having a number would be useful (I probably should've used Grammarly for that). Trimming done. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 05:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Writing

Second paragraph of "Site" section has many mentions of "East" making it hard to read.
- Reduced some of the usages of that word. Epicgenius (talk) 00:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done.A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 05:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Galleria" section has the same but for the word "galleria"
- Reduced some of the usages of that word, too. Epicgenius (talk) 00:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 05:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Impact section": "The artwork was received more positively" do you mean "... by other architecture critics/publications."? It feels like the thought is left unfinished here.
- Yes, that is what I mean. Thanks for bringing that up, I totally forgot about it. Epicgenius (talk) 00:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Illustration

Design section really needs more images for how much text there is. While the text gives good information, it is too dense without additional images. Images from inside would be particularly useful, but an easy addition would be of the artwork mentioned (e.g. the large America Today mural).
- @A. C. Santacruz: Sadly, I can't get interior images myself, mostly because I do not have access to most of the interiors. I would be happy to upload any interior images should I come across any that are freely licensed. Also, the artwork may still be under copyright, unfortunately, as freedom of panorama in the US does not apply to artworks. For example, America Today is still under copyright until about 2025-2026. Epicgenius (talk) 00:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's unfortunate :( Don't worry about images then Epicgenius. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 05:36, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

On hold, some fixes needed.
After changes: Almost gtg, I'll just go and see if I can find typos before I promote. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 05:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 06:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Congratulations Epicgenius A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 06:25, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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