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Including potential candidates

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Currently, it appears as though there is a divergence in what is considered a "potential" candidate. The definition that closely aligns with Wikipedia's policies is a candidate who has received sustained, non-trivial coverage. The standard for that as it applies here is two separate references that discuss the candidate in detail. Gavin Newsom clearly qualifies, as does Kamala Harris and JD Vance. The second definition is any candidate who has received a measure of discussion, such as Pete Buttigieg and Wes Moore. It appears as though editors—many of them through IP addresses—have sought to include potential candidates on the basis that their name appears repeatedly in sources. I was recently source-gathering the other day when I found a video that seems to describe this, in which NBC News reporter Allan Smith says that there are numerous Democrats vying for the nomination—nearly two dozen, according to his article. I am proposing that new candidates be discussed from here on out. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was the main issue I had with the article, but it has improved since the start of the AfD. I will agree that a restriction on inclusion without a discussion is a good idea. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You should also add Raphael Warnock, Jon Ossoff, and Chris Murphy. They appear to be rising stars in the Democratic Party and seem likely to run for the nomination in 2028. 2600:1700:36E0:D120:6538:A428:FE62:E527 (talk) 21:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both Jon Ossof and Warnock would only run if they democrats win the governor race in 2026 as they would just lose their senate seats if they win so I think its premature to list them just because they are rising stars, we will wait if there is any sources on it and if that happens ShortlegPenins (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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@Personisinsterest: I believe that Ocasio-Cortez should not be included in this list. The only citations to support her run are from The Hill, which briefly mentions her as a name that reappears in discussions, and a Slate article that suggests that opposite—that the Democratic Party is not considering her and that she should run. I will leave this discussion to determine whether or not she stays in the article. For now, the status quo is to keep her included. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have commented out Ocasio-Cortez given that there are no sources that suggest she will run other than The Hill. The Vanity Fair citation is to an article that is similar in topic to the Slate article that was previously discussed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are some other articles, not just The Hills. 
AOC Eyed as Potential 2028 Presidential Candidate Yahoo
AOC for prez talk begins again - POLITICO 50.91.26.176 (talk) 04:03, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree in adding AOC back on there as there's now 3 total reliable sources. Clayton Odom Jr. (talk) 04:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
can someone add her back now that she has several articles? TW929 (talk) 02:45, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yahoo is not reliable because it is syndicated content from a website that is not at WP:RSP. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
more AOC sources
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/democratic-jockeying-2028-presidential-election-already-underway-rcna179653
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/30/2028-presidential-candidates-analysis-00195391
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/27/democrats-harris-2028-primary-roundtable-00195423 TW929 (talk) 22:18, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another article from a reliable source dedicated solely to her candidacy.
[1]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democrats-2028-election-b2656624.html 80.44.147.119 (talk) 03:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first article does not mention Ocasio-Cortez as a presidential candidate and the third is effectively an opinion piece. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New Politico Article

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/27/democrats-harris-2028-primary-roundtable-00195423 Not sure if this gets anyone to two sources, it mentioned a lot of potential candidates. TW929 (talk) 17:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

another politico article too. mentions AOC, Walz, Khanna & more TW929 (talk) 18:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/30/2028-presidential-candidates-analysis-00195391 TW929 (talk) 18:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ro Khanna

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There's enough material to add him if the powers that be choose.

Two reliable sources in the last 6 months; NBC Politico.

Notable points, successor to the Sanders 2020 campaign[2], debate with Ramaswamy [3],frequent trips to New Hampshire [4] 80.44.147.119 (talk) 14:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Raphael Warnock to possible Democrat candidates

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I have two articles since the election mentioning Warnock as a potential candidate in 2028. He's won in a moderately red state, so he could be a strong candidate in the primary.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/30/2028-presidential-candidates-analysis-00195391

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2024/11/15/possible-2028-democratic-presidential-candidates 2600:1700:36E0:D120:4500:D649:61D:DC86 (talk) 22:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support - These Guardian and NBC articles also discuss Warnock, there's consensus that The Guardian and NBC (and Politico) are reliable sources.
Murphy, Booker, and Gallego likely meet the criteria too. I've already posted 2 solo articles from reliable sources discussing Ro Khanna and Michelle Obama as potential candidates, so they meet the criteria too. There seems to be some reluctance to add people but the 2024 page had Perry Johnson, Ryan Binkley, Marianne Williamson etc so adding household names shouldn't be controversial, especially when the others listed don't seem to be any better sourced. 80.44.147.119 (talk) 00:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't found two articles mentioning Murphy and Booker yet (though they probably exist), but the Politico article I cited and the NBC article you cited both mention Gallego as a candidate so he should be added as well. 2600:1700:36E0:D120:4500:D649:61D:DC86 (talk) 01:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is Ted Cruz eligible to run?

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He was born in Canada. There should be at least a note talking about this. Clayton Odom Jr. (talk) 17:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He's eligible, as his mother was a natural born US citizen. Note that he ran for the Republican presidential nomination, in 2016. GoodDay (talk) 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why has Pete Buttigieg been removed from potential Democrats?

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There's nothing saying that he's declined on the wiki but has randomly been removed from the Democratic lists Edward of York (talk) 17:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Im not sure, on the edit it says one of the sources was an opinion but there are several others too TW929 (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Jon Ossoff and Tim Walz could be added to the Democrat section. Leikstjórinn (talk) 15:46, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why hasn't Donald Trump Jr. been added as a potential GOP candidate?

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DJT Jr was included in a recent Politico article on the topic (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/30/2028-presidential-candidates-analysis-00195391), where President-elect Trump seems to be supportive of the possibility.

Additionally, Trump Jr was recently included in a Morning Consult poll - where he tied with Vice President-elect Vance. (https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/2028-gop-primary-polling-december-2024) Historyjk19 (talk) 20:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another reliable source.
[5]https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/12/takeaways-trump-time-person-of-the-year/76943063007/ 80.44.147.119 (talk) 03:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Greg Abbott should be added as potential GOP candidates. I guess Byron Donalds and Matt Gaetz could be added too but i think they are more focused on 2026 Florida gubernatioral. Leikstjórinn (talk) 15:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't the article mention that these election might not even be held, and if they are, are very likely to be rigged? After all, Trump has on numerous occasions said that he wants to rule the country autocratically. He even said to his supporters: "if you vote for me now, you don't have to vote in four years." The article seems to be blissfully ignorant of his dictatorial statements. Shouldn't this at the very least be mentioned? Steinbach (talk) 22:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Going by your reasoning, this article should be deleted. Anyways, why wouldn't they be held? AFAIK, the US Constitution hasn't been amended to cancel future US presidential elections. I doubt we'll take everything Trump states, as certain to happen. GoodDay (talk) 22:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 January 2025

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Ted Cruz' office listed has only one period in 'U.S. Senator' as 'U.S Senator.' This is inconsistent with John Fetterman's declining to run. Clayton Odom Jr. (talk) 15:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than adding a period, I remove one per the recommendation at MOS:US. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Changed my mind; I added periods for consistency after looking at the rest of the article. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 January 2025

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The Republican candidates' offices have all been changed to lowercase, please fix TrentBrownlee (talk) 02:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. GoodDay (talk) 00:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should add here:

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" Elections may be held earlier in the event of the president's death or resignation." IgnacyPL (talk) 12:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elections are not held if the president dies or resigns, the VP would become president TW929 (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And to add, a new VP would be approved via Congress. --Super Goku V (talk) 00:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]