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Language extinction

Various languages becoming extinct following the death of their final speaker.

Columbia-Moses - death on May 2nd, 2023, following the death of Pauline Stensgar^[1]

87.241.158.140 (talk) 12:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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^ "Last Fluent Speaker of Nxamxcin Language Dies at 96". The Spokesman. Spokane, Washington.

Continuing the collage discussion

Image E - the US banking crisis - had only one vote as far as I can see. This was a domestic event that does not lend itself to a visual summary and should be immediately removed from the collage. Deb (talk) 08:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’m neutral on the topic’s inclusion, but I don’t like the rationale that no domestic events may be included. I could call maybe half of the current images “domestic” (especially Hawaii, but also Brazil). I also think we could do a lot worse for visual representation—we have three photos of hard-to-discern general destruction—but I see your point. For me, it comes down to importance, and it just feels borderline. But there are a lot of borderline topics. — HTGS (talk) 03:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying no domestic events may be included, but normally they are omitted if they don't have a major worldwide effect. As usual, this collage is US-centric, and I agree that several of the other images are equally uninformative. I'm moved to comment it out unless a genuine attempt is made to achieve consensus. Deb (talk) 13:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“Major worldwide effect”: I’m fine with this, but I would also add an OR for something like “significant domestic historical importance”. I agree about the collage being US centric, but US financial events do have more global importance than most countries. Again, I am neutral on this one, so if nobody else comments, you can just remove it (as a somewhat WP:BOLD edit), but if we were acting on your criteria, wouldn’t the fires in Hawaii have even less “major worldwide effect”?

For the record, I would cast only a weak vote to remove the Hawaii wildfires, and I would replace either with the coronation of Charles III and the expansion of NATO, both being more international, and more historically significant. But perhaps it’s worth just carrying on with WeatherWriter's planned polls? — HTGS (talk) 22:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion: the largest banking crisis in the largest economy in the world is very featured. ArionStar (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a new collage suggestion. Balanced? ArionStar (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A doubt: Wagner Group or Putin? ArionStar (talk) 01:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nagae Iku: does it looks good enough? ArionStar (talk) 03:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice, but the image of the Chinese balloon and King Charles III's coronation are cropped a bit unattractively. Maybe I can make some slight modifications and help you upload it.

Then let me share my views on the Wagner coup and the arrest warrant for Putin: The Wagner coup was a significant event, as it is rare for such an occurrence to happen in one of the top three countries in the world. It captured global attention in the last days of June, but ultimately, the coup fizzled out. The arrest warrant for Putin is also a major event, with 123 countries obligated to arrest him, covering almost two-thirds of the world. This makes it a global issue. However, in September 2024, Putin visited one of the signatory countries—Mongolia—without being arrested, which undermines the feasibility and significance of the treaty. In summary, I believe both events are very important, and I find it difficult to choose between them. Nagae Iku (talk) 07:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, Putin did not attend the Brazil's G20 summit most likely due to his obvious arrest; Putin is visually a more recognizable figure. Could you fix the collage issues, please? ArionStar (talk) 09:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd disagree. The Wagner coup was highly newsworthy and widely reported; the Putin arrest warrant far less so. Deb (talk) 18:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, right. Just waiting for the Iku's update. ArionStar (talk) 00:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone help us? ArionStar (talk) 20:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Collages were kept per a previous discussion, so please put back the collage in some form (even if the former collage until someone decides what will be changed). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:07, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The previous discussion was very clear that the images in a collage must be discussed and consensus should be achieved before they are added to the article. Deb (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This might possibly be the most ineffective talk page on this site.

Please stop removing the collage, no other year page has ever had such a lengthy process for consensus on such a simple part of the page, which eventually turned out to be an ineffective waste which was abandoned by March.

In July, a collage image was uploaded and remained there til last month, when an Autocratic mod decided to remove the image and 'continue the collage discussion' on here.

2024 already has a collage image. Its almost 2025, and we're still arguing on 2023's (or maybe even not, given the talk page hasn't even been used in 4 days).

Please add back the original collage image and simply move on with your lives, for lack of better ways of making this clear. Xavience1 (talk) 03:11, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2023 page also still seems to be behind maximum security protection for whatever reason. Please change this. Xavience1 (talk) 03:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like seriously, this article is completely unprecedented in how disgustingly slow it is to adjust. There is not a SINGLE past year article which is still under such a high level of protection (not 2020, 2021, 2022, etc.), and rightfully so due to an article about a year not being of such high interest to potential vandalists and online propagandists.

I have almost 1 million views on articles I've edited, and I still cannot, for whatever fucking reason, even consider touching this article.

PLEASE CHANGE THIS. Xavience1 (talk) 03:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nagae Iku: please, save its article. ArionStar (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Xavience1: good enough? ArionStar (talk) 14:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could it possibly be because the people who like to create collages, just to show off, don't like it when someone points out that they have failed to achieve consensus? Deb (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We're already going to 2025... ArionStar (talk) 17:55, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't upload anything until October 2025 because I'm banned from Commons. ArionStar (talk) 18:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Collage images may have been accepted but that doesn't mean they are mandatory. Deb (talk) 09:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb: good enough? ArionStar (talk) 01:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the captions? Deb (talk) 15:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is just a preview of the collage. ArionStar (talk) 17:09, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Last Fluent Speaker of Nxamxcin Language Dies at 96". The Spokesman. Spokane, Washington.

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