Talk:2022 University of California academic workers' strike
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 20:43, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that union organizers have described the 2022 University of California academic workers' strike for better pay and benefits as the largest ever strike in U.S. higher education? Source: LA Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2022 Ohio Issue 1
- Comment: I am not sure if the vertical video is acceptable. If not, we can ask Spindas if getting a horizontal video is possible.
Created by Legoktm (talk). Self-nominated at 08:17, 15 November 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Looking great! Well sourced and detailed. I suggest moving some of the sources out of the lead and into the article (the lead shouldn't have any references, and all content should be found in the body of the article), but I don't see this as a barrier to nomination. Prosperosity (talk) 22:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Legoktm and Prosperosity: I'm not sure I want to repeat the claims of union organizers in an ongoing strike; WP:DYK#gen4a notes that
Articles and hooks that... or promote one side of an ongoing dispute should be avoided.
(emphasis in original) I know we're attributing, but I imagine it'd be rather bad optics regardless. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)- @Theleekycauldron and Prosperosity: I considered that, but this is also the lead for most of the major news coverage of the strike: Politico, WaPo, NYT...so I feel less concerned that it's promoting one side. In any case, here are some more possible hooks in order of preference, though I still prefer the original.
- ALT1 ... that unions and the University of California have been negotiating since Spring 2021, but have been unable to agree on a contract leading to a strike by academic workers ? Source: LA Times
- ALT2 ... that a strike by University of California academic workers is the largest of the year in the United States so far? Source: LA Times
- ALT3 ... that some professors have cancelled classes in solidarity with the 2022 University of California academic workers' strike? Source: EdSource
- ALT4 ... that construction workers at UC Berkeley paused their work in solidarity with the 2022 University of California academic workers' strike? Source: LA Times
- Let me know what you think of those. Legoktm (talk) 19:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm a UC student, so I probably shouldn't be approving any hooks :) I'll leave that to someone else. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 07:32, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think ALT2 would be the best of these - it's short and clear. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity: can you formally give it a green check? I think it would also be good if you could approve one or two more of the other alts, just because there is a small chance that a larger strike happens in December. Legoktm (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- That's a fair point! ALT2 preferred, unless while in the queue a different strike is now the largest. Otherwise ALT4 is good to use (ALT3 has the same issue as ALT2, and ALT1 is on the long side). --Prosperosity (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm going to promote ALT4, but wanted to leave this note to explain why. ALT2 has a problem vis-a-vis WP:DYK#Content:
The hook should refer to established facts that are unlikely to change
. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:41, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm going to promote ALT4, but wanted to leave this note to explain why. ALT2 has a problem vis-a-vis WP:DYK#Content:
- That's a fair point! ALT2 preferred, unless while in the queue a different strike is now the largest. Otherwise ALT4 is good to use (ALT3 has the same issue as ALT2, and ALT1 is on the long side). --Prosperosity (talk) 19:19, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Prosperosity: can you formally give it a green check? I think it would also be good if you could approve one or two more of the other alts, just because there is a small chance that a larger strike happens in December. Legoktm (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron and Prosperosity: I considered that, but this is also the lead for most of the major news coverage of the strike: Politico, WaPo, NYT...so I feel less concerned that it's promoting one side. In any case, here are some more possible hooks in order of preference, though I still prefer the original.
Possible additions
[edit]- Many new outlets have covered increased housing prices specifically.
- A few have framed the strike in terms of increased union activity in the US this year (Amazon, Starbucks, etc.)
Legoktm (talk) 03:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- https://www.curbed.com/2022/11/uc-workers-strike-california-housing.html Legoktm (talk) 01:23, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- More on background:
- Legoktm (talk) 22:17, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- More on impact: https://www.berkeleyside.org/2022/12/09/uc-strike-affects-berkeley-campus-finals-gas-deliveries Legoktm (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
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