Talk:2015 Sousse attacks

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2015 Sousse attacks article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

A news item involving 2015 Sousse attacks was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 27 June 2015.

Wikipedia

Crime and Criminal Biography: Serial, mass, and spree killers / Terrorism Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Serial Killer task force (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by the Terrorism task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

Disaster management Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Islam: Islam and Controversy Low‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Islam and Controversy task force.

Tunisia High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tunisia, an attempt to better organize information in articles related to Tunisia. For more information, visit the project page.TunisiaWikipedia:WikiProject TunisiaTemplate:WikiProject TunisiaTunisia
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Title

Someone please move this to the plural as 2 hotels were attacked.120.62.27.54 (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Location of attacks

As a frequent visitor to Sousse in past years, I have altered this article to explain the location of the hotels attacked. They are not situated in the city of Sousse itself, but in the tourist development zone which has been built at Port El Kantaoui. As the existing article on Port El Kantaoui makes clear, the complex is situated about ten kilometres north of the centre of Sousse, and is not within the city of Sousse itself. As frequently is the case, the initial media reports are inaccurate in this regard! Rif Winfield (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As Port El Kantaoui is not located within the city limits of Sousse, the article should be moved to 2015 Port El Kantaoui attacks. Regards, Dionysos1988 (talk) 10:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Port El Kantaoui is just the suburb of Sousse so we can define the article with Sousse, which is the main city.Wykx (talk) 10:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone clarify if the deceased and wounded were actually from two separate hotels? The article implies the attack was only at the RIU Hotel Imperial Marhaba A64ford (talk) 11:37, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes ... separate hotels. Although the hotels have their own separate private grounds leading to the beach, the beach itself is - well - a beach, i.e. not divided. 5.81.29.251 (talk) 16:12, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced changes removed

Some sources changes were unilaterally removed twice https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015_Sousse_attacks&diff=668902888&oldid=668902362. I have restored them.120.62.20.8 (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citation clutter

In case any new editors aren't aware, the first sentence has about 8 citations behind it, which is an obvious example of WP:Citation clutter, something we try to avoid. I don't have the time to fix it now, but perhaps a newer editor will learn this from this message. Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this not on the In The News template on the main page? Surely the mass murder of 38 people and the corresponding attacks in France and Kuwait are newsworthy for this website. BrayLockBoy (talk) 22:00, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there are far too many citations, some of which are less reliable sources, e.g. Daily Mail and Mirror. Danrok (talk) 10:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Two gunmen?

This seems to be nothing more than speculation, as far as I can see there is only one confirmed gunman. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not a newspaper. We should not state speculation as if it were fact. It is best to simply wait until the situation is more clear, there is no need to write a running commentary of events as they happen. Danrok (talk) 10:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and good point. A64ford (talk) 11:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Related deletion discussion

Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 16:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sousse attack in 2013

Have read in various sources about a previous attack at Sousse in October 2013. Could this be included in the Background section? 86.138.211.217 (talk) 23:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

17 Unknown victims?

How is that possible? Article makes a big show that British were specifically victims, but no effort made into the unknown 17 victims? Not even an idea of citizenship? What - random people with no ID or history were roaming around?

-G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.13.119 (talk) 23:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Given that most victims were wearing only swimming costumes, identification must be based on dental and medical records. This takes time. Do you have a better solution? WWGB (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Russian foreign Ministry confirmed the death of Russian woman http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/newsline/54AE0882A55EF58B43257E73005AA5C5 Stasyan117 (talk) 14:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly if more people could read foreign languages sources, we could find out more and make it more balanced. 109.153.22.140 (talk) 23:38, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency?

British death toll from Tunisia attack rises to 29 (Reuters 1 July 2015) —Pietadè (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

former professional footballer?

"Among the fatalities was Denis Thwaites, a former professional footballer for Birmingham City, and his wife, Elaine.[34] 39 others were wounded.[17][35][36][37]" Why is this relevant? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.228.195.58 (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because he is notable (and has a Wikipedia article). The others are not/do not. WWGB (talk) 01:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on 2015 Sousse attacks. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:45, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on 2015 Sousse attacks. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150821070928/http://press.thomson.co.uk/thomson-first-choice-statement-customer-policy-relation-holidays-tunisia/ to http://press.thomson.co.uk/thomson-first-choice-statement-customer-policy-relation-holidays-tunisia/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:13, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Sharon Bell" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sharon Bell. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 18#Sharon Bell until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Carly Lovett" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Carly Lovett. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Carly Lovett until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Charles Evans (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Charles Evans (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Charles Evans (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"John Stocker (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect John Stocker (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#John Stocker (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Janet Stocker" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Janet Stocker. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Janet Stocker until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"John Stollery (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect John Stollery (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#John Stollery (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Lisa Graham" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Lisa Graham. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Lisa Graham until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"William Graham (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect William Graham (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#William Graham (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Sue Davey" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sue Davey. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Sue Davey until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Scott Chalkley" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Scott Chalkley. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Scott Chalkley until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Bruce Wilkinson (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Bruce Wilkinson (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Bruce Wilkinson (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Lisa Burbidge" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Lisa Burbidge. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Lisa Burbidge until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Claire Windass" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Claire Windass. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Claire Windass until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Jim McQuire" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Jim McQuire. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Jim McQuire until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ann McQuire" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Ann McQuire. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Ann McQuire until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:39, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Trudy Jones" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Trudy Jones. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Trudy Jones until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Stephen Mellor (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Stephen Mellor (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Stephen Mellor (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Philip Heathcote" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Philip Heathcote. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Philip Heathcote until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Christopher Bell (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Christopher Bell (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Christopher Bell (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Chris Dyer (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Chris Dyer (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Chris Dyer (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"David Thompson (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect David Thompson (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#David Thompson (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Eileen Swannack" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Eileen Swannack. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Eileen Swannack until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"John Welch (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect John Welch (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#John Welch (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Angie Fisher (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Angie Fisher (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Angie Fisher (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ray Fisher (terrorism victim)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Ray Fisher (terrorism victim). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 28#Ray Fisher (terrorism victim) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]