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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Becky Hogge (3 November 2022). "Writing the Revolution — Wikipedia and the online battle over facts". Financial Times. Heather Ford, a South African internet activist turned academic, has spent 10 years studying the entry covering the Egyptian uprisings on Wikipedia.
Heather Ford (24 November 2022). "Friday essay: shaping history – why I spent ten years studying one Wikipedia article". The Conversation (website). It has been over a decade since I started studying this single article on English Wikipedia about the 2011 revolution. At the time of writing, it runs to almost 13,000 words and more than 400 citations.
Stephen Harrison (October 26, 2023). "Wikipedia Is Covering the War in Israel and Gaza Better Than X". Slate. Retrieved November 1, 2023. ...academic Heather Ford has written about how the decision to title the Wikipedia article "2011 Egyptian revolution," as opposed to "2011 Egyptian protests," influenced how international media covered the conflict for years.

This article has been has been the subject of a book:

Ford, Heather (2022). Writing the revolution : Wikipedia and the survival of facts in the digital age. Cambridge, Massachusetts. ISBN 9780262046299.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

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Section sizes

Section size for 2011 Egyptian revolution (52 sections)
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Other names	2,203	2,203
Background	3,754	33,275
Inheritance of power	4,340	4,340
State-of-emergency law	4,721	4,721
Police brutality	8,680	8,680
Election corruption	1,699	1,699
Demographic and economic challenges	44	4,265
Unemployment and reliance on subsidised goods	2,902	2,902
Economy and poor living conditions	1,319	1,319
Corruption	5,816	5,816
Prelude	1,120	10,110
Tunisian revolution	2,577	2,577
Self-immolation	1,874	1,874
National Police Day protests	4,539	4,539
Timeline	7,392	7,392
Post-revolution timeline	86	51,707
Under the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces	41,467	41,467
Under President Mohamed Morsi	134	5,045
November 2012 declaration	4,911	4,911
June—July 2013 protests and overthrow	5,109	5,109
Protests by city	64	14,071
Cairo	5,868	5,868
Alexandria	788	788
Mansoura	1,295	1,295
Suez	3,110	3,110
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Deaths	10,319	10,319
International reaction	5,314	8,063
Post-ouster	2,749	2,749
Results	11,596	31,618
Reforms	13,858	13,858
Trials	6,164	6,164
Analysis	15	46,514
Regional instability	6,471	10,248
Alexandria church bombing	3,777	3,777
Role of women	3,696	3,696
Role of the military	7,985	7,985
Impact on foreign relations	2,207	2,207
Online activism and social media	17,877	17,877
Role of media disruption on 28 January 2011	2,288	2,288
Post-revolutionary art	2,198	2,198
See also	1,045	1,045
References	30	30
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General	2,227	2,227
Live coverage	750	750
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Documentaries	830	830
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On 11 October 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Egyptian revolution of 2011 to 2011 Egyptian revolution. The result of the discussion was moved.

On 18 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Egyptian Revolution of 2011. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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"Lead Figures" and "Parties to the Civil Conflict" sections

Mohamed Morsi has been added to the "Lead figures" of the revolution section several times now, with no source or explanation given. The problem is that this article is about the revolution of 25/01-11/02, as it clearly states just above this section. Mohamed Morsi wasn't in any way a "lead figure" of this revolution, he became an important political figure far later. If someone wishes to make this claim I would expect that a reliable source is given, especially because of the [policy] on living persons and the recently deceased. No explanation has been given so far on why this unsourced claim keeps being re-added, so I hope this section will encourage a discussion instead of simply reversing again. A few of the other names/groups listed are also questionable, I wish we could go through them all and just keep those for which a good RS is added. I've never heard of Saudi Arabia supporting the revolution, for example. Perhaps I'll work on it myself if I find the time, and I hope others could help out/chime in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azarqa (talk • contribs) 18:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as nobody has said anything to the contrary I've removed Morsi for the reasons mentioned above. Somebody else has removed Saudi Arabia. I'm also removing the Freedom and Justice Party, as it was founded in April 2011 and as such could not have been involved between 25.01.-11.02. I've removed the Egyptian Bloc (founded August 2011) and the Al-Nour Party (founded May 2011) for the same reason. I plan to go through the rest of the people/groups to add citations or remove them. If I do I'll write about it here so please if you disagree with anything discuss here. Azarqa (talk) 05:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 October 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 16:30, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian revolution of 2011 → 2011 Egyptian revolution – Per 2011 Bahraini uprising. Unreal7 (talk) 21:17, 11 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Bada Kaji (talk • श्रीमान् गम्भीर) 14:34, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support The list of revolutions [1] follows the format presented by the nominator, which shows that moving the article would be consistent with other revolutions. --Spekkios (talk) 22:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. TheRollBoss001 (talk) 09:11, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Writing the Revolution — Wikipedia and the online battle over facts

"Heather Ford, a South African internet activist turned academic, has spent 10 years studying the entry covering the Egyptian uprisings on Wikipedia."

For the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's more information about the book and her work in this recent essay: https://theconversation.com/friday-essay-shaping-history-why-i-spent-ten-years-studying-one-wikipedia-article-192602 Jimmyjrg (talk) 23:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program course assignment

This article is the subject of an educational assignment at Georgetown University supported by the Wikipedia Ambassador Program during the 2011 Q3 term. Further details are available on the course page.

The above message was substituted from {{WAP assignment}} by PrimeBOT (talk) on 16:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 July 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 15:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Egyptian revolution → Egyptian Revolution of 2011 – Correct form when describing a revolution, not an uprising or protest. WikipedianRevolutionary (talk) 16:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I can't find any policy to support this move, and WP:CONCISE would lead me to oppose it, as would WP:CONSISTENT with articles provided in the List of revolutions and rebellions. estar8806 (talk) ★ 16:38, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

correct according to what?—blindlynx 21:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article quality

After over a decade, this article desperately needs to be trimmed. It still reads like one on a current developing news story. It has present tense, detailed timelines, many facts repeated multiple times in different section... What do others think? I think it needs to shrink by around 50% to make it easier to navigate and read, and more useful to our readers. John (talk) 16:48, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]