Talk:2008 Pacific Life Open – Men's singles

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I fail to see why one would not use a regular 128-seed bracket. If one were to go to the official website, it is clear that that is the format which is used. The seeded players are listed in the first round with respect to Byes.--Leonidas1982 (talk) 14:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've redone the bracket to reflect the format that is used by Indian Wells' official website and other tennis authorities.--Leonidas1982 (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But if Wikipedia can potentially improve the the layout, it should. We can tabulate it whichever way is most suitable - for example, using a bracket system that has been created to accommodate for byes. I just thinking writing BYE all the time looks ugly, especially in the wikitables; whereas these[1][2] look much more streamlined. Whether or not one system is advantageous to the editor is really a moot point; it won't matter after the tournament has finished. If you think the 'BYE's add to the reader's understanding of the draw, then simply writing a sentence saying that the top 8 seeds receive a bye would sort that problem. It would be better to have a disclaimer than the word BYE dotted around everywhere.

I feel I'm just sticking to what is protocol, the established method on Masters Series draws - why should it be changed? Yohan euan o4 (talk) 16:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protocol in what sense? Tennis brackets are never displayed in this manner. As is evident by tennis authorities (ATP, WTA, and the official Indian Wells Draw), the proper method is to display seeded players in the first round, regardless of byes. It should never be the case for wikipedia to create a method that is foreign due to one's personal preference. Wikipedia is about about facts. What is not fact is the abridged bracket which is not used by tennis authorities.--Leonidas1982 (talk) 17:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protocol in the sense that it's what past Masters Series draws have used. The facts are still present, they aren't distorted whatsoever. I don't feel the Wikitables aren't particularly suitable; the writing is a lot more condensed in these brackets than on the official drawsheets. This is my opinion, but it's backed up by previous Masters Series draws (on Wikipedia), which I haven't participated in. I'd like to hear some other people's views on this, though. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 13:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]