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Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
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Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
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- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

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Qualifying for the 1980 World Snooker Championship

FYI

Jack Rea beat B Bennett 9-1; W Thorne beat K Robitaille 9-4; W Thorne beat Jack Rea 9-1

S Davis beat C Ross 9-3; P Morgan beat P Thornley 9-4; S Davis beat P Morgan 9-0

M Hallett beat K Kennerley 9-2; K Stevens beat D Greaves 9-3; K Stevens beat M Hallett 9-3

J Johnson beat R Andrewartha 9-5; P Houlihan beat J Johnson 9-6; T Meo beat J Van Rensburg 9-1; T Meo beat P Houlihan 9-1

R Amdor beat B Mikkelsen 9-7; R Williams beat R Amdor 9-4; J Wych beat John Bear 9-5; J Wych beat R Williams 9-7

F Jonik beat M Wildman 9-7; C Wilson beat F Jonik 9-6

R Edmonds beat M Parkin 9-2; S Hood beat J Dunning 9-7; R Edmonds beat S Hood 9-6

E Sinclair beat M Morra 9-5; E Sinclair beat D Mienie 9-7; J Meadowcroft beat E Sinclair 9-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.8.15 (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1980 World Snooker Championship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Harper J. Cole (talk · contribs) 21:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one...--Harper J. Cole (talk) 21:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overview / Tournament Summary

I wonder whether these might be merged into one section?
- The first part of summary (about the change in participants and such) should probably be in overview. See similar FAs such as 1984 World Snooker Championship for a comparison Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:38, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've moved the text that was before "Qualifying" in the Tournament summary up into Overview. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the material for in the Overview seems like it belongs in the World Snooker Championship article, rather than this one. Everything from "The World Snooker Championship is an annual professional snooker tournament..." through to "...Since 1977, the event has been held at the Crucible Theatre in Sheffield, England." This information isn't specific to the 1980 tournament.
- No, but it's an overview of what the event is. How can you understand this event without having a vague idea of what the tournament is? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:38, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think the non-1980 specific information is useful for readers, and having a version of that has been accepted by reviewers for the 1981 to 1990 championship articles including the ones that have passed featured article review. Although the observation is valid, I'd prefer to keep that non-specific information in. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Worth mentioning that they scrapped the 3rd place match in 1980?

Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Qualifying

"Redwood Lodge Country Club ," has a superfluous space before the comma.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:29, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The dates should presumably read "1980", not "1989".

Yes indeed. Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:29, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First round

It feels natural to say which frame Mountjoy made his century in (as you did with Stevens earlier).

Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Wych 5–4 to 10–5 against former champion John Pulman." This sentence seems to be missing a word or two.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Missing "the" - "lost first four frames"

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Werbeniuk's break of 101 made it 7–7" This makes it sound like Werbeniuk's century came in the 14th frame, but it came in the 13th.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Second round

Worth mentioning that Griffiths' defeat was an instance of the Crucible Curse?

Yes, I agree. Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:31, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphens are used instead of en dashes a few times in the Virgo-Charlton report.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quarter-finals

For "...in which he won the match 13–10..." you're missing a full stop, plus the score was 13–9, not 13–10.

Corrected. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For "...becoming the youngest-ever world championship semi-finalist..." maybe say what age Stevens was?

Bizarrely, the first few sources I checked all mentioned "youngest" but none mentioned the age. Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For "...Reardon has three breaks..." should be "had".

Corrected. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-finals

"Stevens led 5–2 against Higgins after they had been level at 2–2." Technically true, but more informative to say that Stevens won four in a row from 1–2 behind?

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Final

For "best-of-35 frames" having a hyphen between "35" and "frames" would be consistent with previous rounds.

Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of citations in this section have a coolon and a number after them (e.g. "[56]:35"). I've not seen this before on Wikipedia. Is it deliberate?

They are to indicate the page number, if different pages in the same source are being used, to help verification. I've tidied this up a bit but kept one - the two different pages used from Black Farce and Cue Ball Wizards.

"After Thorburn won the first frame, with Higgins won the next five." Superfluous "with".

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Higgins led 6–2 at the end of the first session" It was 6–3 after one session, according to the Crucible Almanac. My source may be wrong, but it's worth double-checking.

You're right. I've also corrected this in the Thorburn article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"...winning the next to leave Thorburn one behind at 13–14..." Similarly, the third session seems to have ended at 13–13.

Amended. I've also corrected this in the Thorburn article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Higgins and Thorburn had on ongoing rivalry" Here "on" should be "an".

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Main draw

The Crucible Almanac lists Spencer as the 4 seed and Charlton as the 5 seed.

I'm checking. Looks like Charlton was higher in the Snooker world rankings 1979/1980. The April 1980 Snooker Scene says Charlton was 4th seed and Spencer was 5th. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Times for 1 May has "Eddie Charlton, seeded number 4"; The Daily Mirror for 24 April has "Eddie Charlton, the No. 4 seed"; The Sydney Morning Herald for 28 Apr 1980 says that Spencer was the fifth seed and Charlton the fourth. Looks to me like the balance of evidence is that Charlton was 4th and Spencer 5th so I've kept those in the draw but added a footnote. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It has the 5th frame score in the final as 82–26.

Looks like 82-25 in Snooker Scene, will check other sources. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Times has 82-26 - it may be the low quality of the scan I have of Snooker Scene that is the issue. Amended the score. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It has Thorburn as making a 53 break in frame 11.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It has frame 24 finishing 74–51.

Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusion

A good article with minor issues. I'll wait for your response.

Many thanks for taking on the review and for your comments, Harper J. Cole. I've responded to your points above - let me know what else is needed. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article Passed

The issues have been dealt with. I'll accept your judgement as to the content of the Overview section. I've given the article GA status; nice work.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:28, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]