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== Deadline predicts a $110-120M opening weekend for Justice League == |
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Justice League - Part One
According to Entertainment Weekly, the title of the film includes a hyphen, although EW uses a longer dash in their article (Justice League — Part 1). - Richiekim (talk) 16:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
JL Part 1 and 2 cast connected?; WW is immortal and 5,000 years old
Is the cast for both part one and two one in the same? Although it may seem like that it doesnt look like each film is filming back to back. It appears as though Part One is filming firs . But nothing on part two. Also, i kñowthis isnt a source, by I couldnt find somethin reliable or from Empire Magazine itaelf it appears that Diana Prince is 5,000 years old and immortal. As well as being an antiques dealer. Here is the source. Npamusic (talk) 00:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- In an interview, Chris Terrio States: "I have written Justice League Part One, but I won’t necessarily write Part Two". Here is the source. Npamusic (talk) 18:38, 11 March 2016 (UTC) Npamusic (talk) 18:38, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
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Executive Producer does not mean "Producer"
If you're reading this, please make note that, as stated above, an executive producer does not mean that that person is a PRODUCER on the film. There are differences when it comes to being a producer and an executive producer. Please read up. Npamusic (talk) 01:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Justice League Part One
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Sequel?
Is this film going to be a sequel to Batman v Superman? 173.55.97.103 (talk) 23:32, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
- I guess not, in the same way that Marvel's The Avengers is not a sequel to any previous MCU film. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think Marvel's The Avengers is a sequel to Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger. 173.55.97.103 (talk) 21:08, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think, like Marvel's The Avengers it is sort off standalone but in narrative sense, it is a sequel to Batman v Superman because the plots of DC Films installments coming out before this movie, Suicide Squad (film) and Wonder Woman (2017 film) do not necessarily take place between that of Batman v Superman and of this movie. Ash wki (talk) 17:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Article Title
Should this be moved to Justice League (film) from Justice League (2017 film) since there is no other movie named Justice League? Ash wki (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- I believe it should be. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 25 July 2016
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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SSTflyer 05:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Justice League (2017 film) → Justice League (film) – Proper disambiguation. There are other other "Justice League" film pages. All other ones have specific disambiguations that the "2017" isn't necessary. – BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:39, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Bignole: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- Justice League (disambiguation) says that there are two Justice League films coming out in 2017. What is "ambiguations"? I thought that we should avoid ambiguity. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:53, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- Where do you see "two" films coming out in 2017? I'm looking at the page and there is only the one 2017 film. There are no other films that use the name "Justice League" (solely) as the title. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:03, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- Support: There is no other film simply named "Justice League. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
- Support - As stated above. No other film is called Justice League DrkBlueXG (talk) 22:27, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
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Trailer Reception
Should we already include a Reception section to have early thoughts on the trailer? DrkBlueXG (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
- Are there any reviews from professional critics? If so, yes we may include. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:34, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Jesse Eisenberg
Please stop adding Jesse Eisenberg to the main cast until he's actually confirmed to be starring. Right now, we know he's in the film. That's it. DarkKnight2149 22:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- And on that note, do we even know if Willem Dafoe is starring either? DarkKnight2149 22:16, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Diane Lane
Diane Lane, who portrayed Martha Kent in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, talked about an experience she had on the set of Justice League on last night's (Oct-7-16) episode of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Here is the clip from the program's official YouTube channel. I have no idea how to source this, or even if using a brief anecdote from a talk show violates any of Wikipedia's rules about sources. I was hoping someone else would know how to handle this.
- LoveWaffle (talk) 16:48, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Henry Cavill
What is our source for the order of the cast list? People keep moving Cavill's name up and down the list, and I think it may be appropriate to add a note stating that he shouldn't be moved, once we get him to the right spot. -RM (talk) 21:24, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- If there is an official cast list announcement, we could follow that. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:45, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think there is... we just know who has been confirmed, but many of the cast members were confirmed for BvS (Affleck, Cavill, Gadot, Miller, Momoa, Fisher, Adams, Irons, and possibly a couple others) and then there was (I believe) a sort of blanket statement that many of them would return for Justice League. I would say keep the order from BvS, but Miller, Momoa, and Fisher weren't in the main billing so we don't really know where they place in the billing here. So my next best idea: alphabetical by actor's last name. It eliminates any potential accusations of original research, at least until we get a billing block. -RM (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm going to go ahead and make this change, until we get a billing block or something that can suggest an order for the cast list. I'm also going to move Hinds to the paragraph below... not sure if he's actually main cast, so it will be just the six Justice League members for now. -RM (talk) 14:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Wish the Comic Con trailer had shown a cast list. We could have followed that. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Now that we've made this definitive (if only temporary) change to the cast list, I would recommend keeping close watch over it. Given this article's edit history, there are probably going to be a number of IPs and new users that will try to change it again for whatever reason. DarkKnight2149 16:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Will do, I've added comments (as if that will stop anyone lol) and will check regularly. -RM (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- We now have an official cast list as seen here. The cast has been reorganised accordingly. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Finally! Great to hear, thanks for making the change! -RM (talk) 17:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- We now have an official cast list as seen here. The cast has been reorganised accordingly. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Will do, I've added comments (as if that will stop anyone lol) and will check regularly. -RM (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Now that we've made this definitive (if only temporary) change to the cast list, I would recommend keeping close watch over it. Given this article's edit history, there are probably going to be a number of IPs and new users that will try to change it again for whatever reason. DarkKnight2149 16:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- Wish the Comic Con trailer had shown a cast list. We could have followed that. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:56, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm going to go ahead and make this change, until we get a billing block or something that can suggest an order for the cast list. I'm also going to move Hinds to the paragraph below... not sure if he's actually main cast, so it will be just the six Justice League members for now. -RM (talk) 14:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think there is... we just know who has been confirmed, but many of the cast members were confirmed for BvS (Affleck, Cavill, Gadot, Miller, Momoa, Fisher, Adams, Irons, and possibly a couple others) and then there was (I believe) a sort of blanket statement that many of them would return for Justice League. I would say keep the order from BvS, but Miller, Momoa, and Fisher weren't in the main billing so we don't really know where they place in the billing here. So my next best idea: alphabetical by actor's last name. It eliminates any potential accusations of original research, at least until we get a billing block. -RM (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
Abin Sur
So, is Julian Lewis Jones actually confirmed to be playing the Green Lantern, Abin Sur, or did somebody just put that on here as a wild guess? -DCTrinity (talk) 1:38, 2 February 2017
Matt Damon as Darkseid
Producer Charles Roven confirms Matt Damon as Darkseid. True or false? International Business Times
- An April Fool's joke. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Not sure if it is a joke. It was posted today. I'm not aware how valid IBT is though. Reb1981 (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- It was originally posted yesterday. Someone probably picked it up and thought it was real. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:05, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Is Danny Elfman the sole composer?
Has it been confirmed whether or not Junkie XL's work on Justice League will still be used alongside Elfman's work, or if Danny Elfman will be the sole composer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.139.160 (talk) 00:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- An article I read that was the initial report stated that Elfman would compose the soundtrack for the new scenes and reshoots. That clearly doesn't say that Junkie XL is out of the picture!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- Elfman replaced XL. According to The Hollywood Reporter, XL moved on to the Tomb Raider reboot. Rusted AutoParts 06:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- That doesn't confirm whether or not Junkie XL's work will be used on the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.139.160 (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- They're use of words tries to imply that it is all Elfman, but it's June, which is a little late in the game for a movie being released in November to try to develop a completely new score. It's more like it was on other films, where there is a good chance that he gets co-credit, instead of sole credit. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 18:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- XL's remarks in regards to this tells me that XL's score is being replaced. This isn't unheard of for a composer's score to be scrapped and replaced so soon before the film's release. For example, Gabriel Yared being replaced by James Horner on Troy. Rusted AutoParts 19:57, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- Except nowhere does it say the score was scrapped. In the same exclusive from THR, it talks about ELfman replacement Tyler Bates on Age of Ultron. They BOTH got credit for the score. Unless a source says that Junkie's stuff was completely scrapped, or the film comes out and doesn't give him credit, we don't have a reliable source saying he should be removed. It's June 2017, the film comes out in 5 months. That's a lot to scrap last minute. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- That's a mistake on THR's part then. The first time Elfman's involvement with AOU was when the film's poster was revealed. Obviously we'll wait for a billing block for final confirmation but at this moment it's looking like Elfman's doing the score on his own, which as I said isn't uncommon. Rusted AutoParts 02:45, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- Except nowhere does it say the score was scrapped. In the same exclusive from THR, it talks about ELfman replacement Tyler Bates on Age of Ultron. They BOTH got credit for the score. Unless a source says that Junkie's stuff was completely scrapped, or the film comes out and doesn't give him credit, we don't have a reliable source saying he should be removed. It's June 2017, the film comes out in 5 months. That's a lot to scrap last minute. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:52, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- XL's remarks in regards to this tells me that XL's score is being replaced. This isn't unheard of for a composer's score to be scrapped and replaced so soon before the film's release. For example, Gabriel Yared being replaced by James Horner on Troy. Rusted AutoParts 19:57, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- They're use of words tries to imply that it is all Elfman, but it's June, which is a little late in the game for a movie being released in November to try to develop a completely new score. It's more like it was on other films, where there is a good chance that he gets co-credit, instead of sole credit. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 18:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- That doesn't confirm whether or not Junkie XL's work will be used on the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.148.139.160 (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- Elfman replaced XL. According to The Hollywood Reporter, XL moved on to the Tomb Raider reboot. Rusted AutoParts 06:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- An article I read that was the initial report stated that Elfman would compose the soundtrack for the new scenes and reshoots. That clearly doesn't say that Junkie XL is out of the picture!--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
No, they didn't. 40 seconds in, you'll see for yourself. They are both credited for composing. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 05:05, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- You seem to have confused me saying that THR's mistake was stating Elfman replaced Tyler as me saying Elfman was the only one credited for AOU. I know they collaborated on AOU. What I'm saying is that Elfman's involvement was first brought to light via the release of the poster, thus there was never a source that stated Elfman was replacing Tyler. But in the case of JL, it seems more like Elfman is in fact replacing XL, based off the wording XL used in his comments. Which will be proven or disproven come a billing block reveal. Rusted AutoParts 05:50, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- The announcement probably has more to do with buzz than anything. My point is that, this isn't the first time Elfman has been brought in late to the game and contributed to something already there. And that none of the sources have identified if Junkie finished a score, did nothing, is having it completely rewritten by Elfman, or if Elfman is just taking care of the new scenes BECAUSE Junkie had already moved on to another film and couldn't come back. Everyone is being vague about what happened, and "being replaced" for Junkie could just as easily mean being replaced on scoring the additional scenes being filmed. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
- Elfman is the sole composer. No press about Junkie's involvement is being published. I can't believe Junkie is still being credited after a discussion from four months ago concluded this without consideration for recent news. There has been lots of news about Elfman recently.
- Except, no news source has said that none of his music will be used. He was replaced late in the game, when he would have been working on a score. We only know that Elfman is taking over. No one has said that he doesn't plan to use any score, just like with Age of Ultron. We don't even have a credit list yet to see if he is getting sole credit for music or joint credit depending on if Junkie's music was used at all. If Junkie was replace early on, we wouldn't have this conversation, but it came after the film had finished primary photog and music scoring would have started. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 23:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- The time of replacement never has anything to do with whether or not the rejected score will appear in the film. With Age of Ultron, it was made very clear from the beginning that Elfman was writing additional music that would be used alongside Tyler's score Link This is an entirely different. Link When a score is replaced, it is replaced. I don't understand why you all are having trouble understanding that. Junkie XL does not have Justice League featured on his website and anounced to his social media that he would not be involved with Justice League. Adervae (talk) 02:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't say time of replacement dictates if his score will be used, I said time of replacement dictates whether or not he likely started a score. The use of that score is entirely up to the studio and Whedon, and no source has explicitly stated that it won't get any use (if it existed). BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:12, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- The time of replacement never has anything to do with whether or not the rejected score will appear in the film. With Age of Ultron, it was made very clear from the beginning that Elfman was writing additional music that would be used alongside Tyler's score Link This is an entirely different. Link When a score is replaced, it is replaced. I don't understand why you all are having trouble understanding that. Junkie XL does not have Justice League featured on his website and anounced to his social media that he would not be involved with Justice League. Adervae (talk) 02:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Except, no news source has said that none of his music will be used. He was replaced late in the game, when he would have been working on a score. We only know that Elfman is taking over. No one has said that he doesn't plan to use any score, just like with Age of Ultron. We don't even have a credit list yet to see if he is getting sole credit for music or joint credit depending on if Junkie's music was used at all. If Junkie was replace early on, we wouldn't have this conversation, but it came after the film had finished primary photog and music scoring would have started. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 23:32, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Elfman is the sole composer. No press about Junkie's involvement is being published. I can't believe Junkie is still being credited after a discussion from four months ago concluded this without consideration for recent news. There has been lots of news about Elfman recently.
- The announcement probably has more to do with buzz than anything. My point is that, this isn't the first time Elfman has been brought in late to the game and contributed to something already there. And that none of the sources have identified if Junkie finished a score, did nothing, is having it completely rewritten by Elfman, or if Elfman is just taking care of the new scenes BECAUSE Junkie had already moved on to another film and couldn't come back. Everyone is being vague about what happened, and "being replaced" for Junkie could just as easily mean being replaced on scoring the additional scenes being filmed. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Joss Whedon is post-production director
With all of the press and coverage the media, and Warner Bros./DC Films has made regarding Joss Whedon joining the film as writer of new and reshot scenes, as well as director of those and the post-production process - why are we waiting for a 'more official statement'? How much more official can it be? That along with the fact that he brought on Danny Elfman to compose those scenes (possibly to re-score the whole film as well); what makes him 'officially' a director of this? Opinions, anyone?--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 05:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- The Official Statement I'm thinking of is the billing block of a future poster. And while Joss Whedon is working on re-shoots, DGA rules state a director has to be responsible for 51% of a film to receive full credit. See Superman II for the most famous case of that. I don't know about rules regarding co-credit. Crboyer (talk) 06:00, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
- Someone else filming reshoots or doing post-production work is NOT abnormal. It's just that it's Joss Whedon and so it's a publicity think. Also, Danny Elfman would not be redoing the whole score when Junkie XL has already been scoring it. Doing a few select scenes only means that Junkie XL is busy with the rest of the film and can't find time to do some random scene. I'm sure he's consulting with Danny, just like he did with Hans Zimmer on Batman v Superman. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 14:54, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
I would think with the private screening of justice league. joss whedon should get credit for the reshoot and for finishing the movie. Yes zack snyder finished half the movie but that was in june. So far whedon have been finishing the movie himself. Underdog0123 (talk) 05:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
- It's already been established that he isn't getting a directing credit. Snyder did more than half the movie. The reshoots, although expensive, were not expansive enough to change the film. That's why Whedon got a writing credit and not a directing credit. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 17:56, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Justice League confirmed as 121 minutes long
Since Fandango's Erik Davis has confirmed here on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/922454655690596355) that Justice League is 121 minutes long, can we please add it to the film's wiki page, now? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.22.19.82 (talk) 14:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
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- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Sakura Cartelet Talk 20:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Empire Cinemas confirms Justice League's runtime
Empire Cinemas have tweeted out that Justice League is announced to be 119 minutes and 53 seconds, which is estimated at 120 minutes or 2 hours: https://twitter.com/EmpireCinemas/status/922513823587762177. Can we please add this onto the film's wiki page? PLEASE? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.120.51 (talk • contribs)
- As an encyclopaedia, there's no rush. DonQuixote (talk) 12:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Deadline predicts a $110-120M opening weekend for Justice League
While Box Office Pro is saying JL will open to $150M in it's opening weekend, Deadline is saying JL will open to $110-120M in it's opening weekend: http://deadline.com/2017/10/ben-affleck-justice-league-gal-gadot-box-office-projection-1202195005/
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