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:Dear, @[[User:Mz7|Mz7]]
:I am writing to request an '''unblock of my account''' on Wikipedia. My account was recently blocked due to "''Sockpuppet''", but I believe that the block was unjustified and would like to explain my position.
:Firstly, I would like to apologize for any actions or statements that may have violated Wikipedia's policies. The problem is I am both unaware of "Sockpuppet concept" and i have zero intention to do political edits. Also, i'd like to note i don't use these accounts for political needs. Beofore i get banned I wasn't even know what sockpuppet means. I understand that the use of multiple accounts can be a violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I want to assure you that I did not intend to deceive or manipulate the editing process in any way. I created the second account in order to point out Oghuric/Hunno-Bulgar languages. I thought user Beshoghur and Austronesier deleting my edits because they hated me. That's why I wanted to use another account. Still, Kamista is older than this so essentially i did not create account for edit.
:Secondly, I would like to provide additional context and evidence that I believe may shed light on the situation. For instance, I've been editing Chuvash page for 1-2 years. It has still my contributions a lot. And they weren't bad. I'd like to do more. Most of my edits deleted because I banned but they were pretty academic and accurate. For instance, [[User:ActivelyDisinterested]] just deleted my edits even though it was better than older one.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuvash_people&oldid=1153123665] user Nishidani also deleted me edits in Khazars just because I banned. But there is no any single misleading in the page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khazars&oldid=1152618179 Please look] If you remove my ban I'll revert these and probably be unactive for a very very long time if it's not forever. I see that my actions were misguided and not in keeping with Wikipedia's standards for transparency and accountability. I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and am confident that I can make positive contributions to the website by removing by reverts and I'll go.
:I never made an '''unblock request''' until now. Because I understood it was something about rules. And even though I'm not very well aware of them, I accepted this block. However, deleting my other accounts for editing contents is definetly unjust. It was for nothing. And I am here for unblock request for this account. Not because I'd like to do more edits but because I want to remove the meaningless reverts.
:Have a nice day.
: [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


|decline = Given that you were still socking, during the pendency of this request, the block is clearly still necessary. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 23:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)}}
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* On Wikipedia, the term "sockpuppetry" refers to the misuse of multiple accounts. Thus, the term "sockpuppet" refers to an account that was created in violation of our [[WP:SOCK|policy on multiple accounts]]. While multiple accounts can have [[WP:SOCK#LEGIT|legitimate uses]], it is against the rules to use multiple accounts in a way that makes it look like there are multiple people editing when really it is just one. Additionally, if you are blocked from Wikipedia because of something you did, it is against the rules to create a new account to continue editing—if you do so, any such accounts will be blocked, and all of their contributions may be summarily reverted (see [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Evasion and enforcement]]). {{pb}} Indeed, this particular block exists because your previous account {{checkuser|Bulgaryani}} was blocked on 26 April 2023, and that account was blocked because you appear to have been blocked while your were logged out, see [[Special:Contributions/159.146.14.0/24]] <small>(note: I am merely referencing [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ABulgaryani this block log])</small>. Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first. [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 00:34, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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{{unblock reviewed|reason=:Dear, @[[User:Mz7|Mz7]]
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I would like to offer a sincere apology once again for my past actions involving sockpuppetry. As an individual who values the principles of academic integrity and transparency, I understand that my behavior was completely unacceptable and violated the trust that the community has placed in me. I guarantee that after some edits I will not use Wikipedia anymore for a very long time if it's not forever.
You are editing a top class 4 article with virtually no prior experience as an editor. You are ignoring standard rules.
*(a) If a source by a worldclass expert states something you personally disagree with, you are not entitled to revert it out because you personally disagree
*(b) You should read the source, and, if you find other expert sources that contradict what it is quoted for, make an argument on the talk page.
*(c)Where there is a disagreement, that is resolved by arguing on the talk page, not by edit-warring
*(d)Persist in what you are doing will lead to a report, and a suspension of your right to edit. So do the intelligent thing: lay out your argument on the talk page. [[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 20:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


In past days, I read sockpuppetry article in Wikipedia, I have not only deceived others, but also compromised the integrity of the content on this platform. I am deeply sorry for the harm and disruption that my actions may have caused to the community.
Kys [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 03:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


I fully understand that my actions were in direct violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I am committed to never engaging in such behavior again. Moving forward, I will abide by the highest standards of integrity and professionalism in all my interactions on this platform. If you give me a chance, you can check for my last edits for a week, then I will be inactive or dead.
My ancestors + reliable sources. Someone doing kangz in Khazar section.


I would like to express my deepest apologies to the Wikipedia community and pledge to regain your trust through my future actions. Thank you for your attention and understanding. I don't want to create new accounts, editing same thing. Right now I am "personally banned" as another admin told.
"The subject tribes appear to have spoken varieties of Lir Turkic likely related to the Oghuric branch or Chuvash/Volga-Bulgarian."


"Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first."
Now as a descendant of Volga Bulgars (Chuvash), i've some questions. First what is "Volga Bulgarian", it should have been Bulgar instead of Bulgarian. 2ndly, why "or"? Chuvash and Volga Bulgar is already proven oghuric languages. This slavic bulgarian dude doing kangz and i'm banned because i removed this bs as a new user? [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 03:07, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
::It is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia that whatever an editor may think of his cultural heritage, that must not interfere with what secondary sources written by experts in the field state. I am using the language given by Erdal in his long article on the Khazar language. These language are, by the way, poorly reported on Wikipedia because the technical literature is very intricate, so one either wades through the technical literature or stays silent. It is much more complex than even my edits suggest, and the passage you are meddling with still requires much work.[[User:Nishidani|Nishidani]] ([[User talk:Nishidani|talk]]) 06:23, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
:You are not a Chuvash, you are a Kazan Tatar, your page is on Russian Wikipedia - Bolgarhistory. A well-known propagandist of the theory of Tatar Bulgarism. Your main and only goal is to spoil articles where it is said and confirmed about the Bulgarian - Ugric origin of the Chuvash people. [[User:Won Woghur|Won Woghur]] ([[User talk:Won Woghur|talk]]) 10:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
::I like when I see a [[fringe theory|fringe theorist]] like you (unfortunately, this is typical on [[Bulgarians]], not to be confused with ancient [[Oguric]] [[Turkic peoples|Turks]] called [[Bulgars]], or also [[Volga Bulgars|Idel Bulgars]]) accuse somebody of "propagandist". You are [[Slav]]. You are most probably not a descendant of [[Bulgar]] elite but who knows, you are maybe a real Turk like Old Bulgars of Balkans, you must firstly prove what you claim. The name Ugric is controversial on the other hand. Name Ugric most probably originates from Turkic Oguric (see: [[Onogurs|Oguric Turks]]), Onogurs founded states like [[Patria Onoguria]] around modern-day Ukraine, you might know, the other naming for that is [[Old Great Bulgaria]]. I am a [[User:Karak1lc1k|Varsak]], and Oghuzified [[:tr:Varsak Türkmenleri|Varsak Turcomans]] who are descendants of Garsak or Karsak people, an old Vanandur ([[Old Great Bulgaria#Origins|Onogundur]]) tribe (see: [[Name of Hungary#European_exonyms_for_Hungarians_and_Hungary|Hunogury]], [[Name of Turkey#Greek_and_Latin_sources|Turkia (Hungaria)]], [[Tourkia]], [[Vanand]], [[Nandorfehervar|Nandor]], [[Onoguris]], [[Corsac]] and [[Kars]]; see also: [https://essentials.ebsco.com/search/eds/details/bulgar-t%C3%BCrk%C3%A7esi%CC%87-%C3%BCzeri%CC%87ne-ara%C5%9Ftirma-ve-i%CC%87ncelemeler-1-bulgar-t%C3%BCrkleri%CC%87ni%CC%87n-onogur-ve-onogundur-kabi%CC%87le?query=Bulgar%20Etimolojileri&requestCount=2&db=edo&an=92980900 Onogur and Onogundur]) that still live around '''[[Bolkar Mountains]]''' of Turkey (as "[[:tr:Tapan Bıçağı|Tapan Union]]" or “Tapan [[:wikt:yöre|Yöre]]”, a tribal union of 9 [[Yayla (resort)|yaylags]] called [[Tenkerli, Feke|Tengerli]], [[Tokmanaklı, Feke|Tochmanagly]], [[Paşalı, Feke|Paşalı]], [[Kovukçınar, Feke|Kovukçınar]], [[Akoluk, Feke|Akoluk]], [[Kırıkuşağı, Feke|Kırıkuşağı]], [[Kaşaltı, Feke|Kaşaltı]], [[Uğurlubağ, Feke|Uğurlubağ]], we call our region '''Bolkar-Eli''' which means '''Bolkaria''' or '''Bolgaria''', that mts range is commonly called '''Bolkar Dağları'''), and I won't let Slavist, Indo-Europeanist, probably Pan-Christianist, Pan-Europeanist, Aryanist, Eurocentrist Slavs like you to [[vandalism|vandalise]] Turkic values, especially of those Onoguric or Oguric also known as '''Bulgar''' ones, which is there not to be confused with the term [[Bulgarian]] for sure.
::Just like the Khazar elite who converted to Judaism and there was a [[Kabar#History|Khazar Civil War]] just for that (you can see: [[Magyar tribes#History|Magyar tribes]] for further info), the Bulgar elite also converted into Christianity and made the Slavic language official after a series of pro-Byzantine actions made by [[Boris I]] and after that there was also a bloody civil war in which Boris massacred all Bulgars who were Tangraists who fought for [[Tangra]] and killed 52, yes you heard it right, fifty-two [[Boyar#Etymology|boyars]], and blinded and imprisoned his own son [[Vladimir-Rasate|Rasate]] who was a khagan for some period after Boris's reign (Boris then retook the throne back), and were fighting against his pro-Byzantine and pro-European father Boris and his actions, for the Turkic religion [[Tengrism|Tangraism]]. So I saw you on a lot of [[Oguric]]-related, [[Tengri|Täŋrï]]-related and [[Turkish people|Ottoman]]-related subjects trying to manipulate things, and I know how your type typically behaves well. I am a Wikipedist since 2013 and I saw many many others like you who are from Bulgaria. I know Balkan peoples and their made-by-imperial-powers mindset very well. We won't let you propagandize the lies made in the era of anti-Turkist, Turkophobe bandit groups who made hundreds of disgusting atrocities against Muslim (Turkish) villages in the Balkans, brutally massacring tens of thousands of them, at least 600,000 Turks (in the 1880s) had to flee from Bulgaria into the vicinity of Marmara. After some series of long and strong imperialist propaganda effort by imperial, colonist powers of British, French, Russians against the weak Turkey just to divide and colonize parts of [[Sick man of Europe|the sick man]], they established and financed Bulgarian, Greek, Serbian, Armenian bandit groups to massacre Muslim population for projected pro-Russian, pro-British, pro-French satellite states, so-called independent countries and to attract the intervention of Ottoman State to protect Muslims and then intervene against the Ottomans like 1876-77. Since then till today, Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Serbians are taught to kill the Turks and be against the Turks whatever the cost is (proof? the result of this ill made-by-imperials mindset was the brutal 1989 Bulgarian '''[[Revival Process]]''', and 1975-92 Armenian [[List of attacks by ASALA|ASALA]], 1971-78 Greek [[EOKA B]], and ofcourse 1992 Serbian [[Srebrenica massacre|Srebrenica]], you can check each of them carefully) since the Russian- or French-financed terror years in the Balkans between 1880-1900. Turks ruled Balkans more than 500 years and as a Muslim state (Islam prohibits to massacre other peoples) touched none of the peoples' religions or languages, after 500 years none of the Balkan peoples got assimilated or speak Turkish today, on the other hand when you look at the Christian background nations, even if they did not stay more than 100 or 200 years, they massacred, assimilated, forced them to change their religion etc.
::Muslim Turks could've forcefully change your religions in to Islam, change your language by force into Turkish, the colonist/imperial powers brutally did that in just a 40 or 100 year-span everywhere they go whether it's Africa, the Americas, India, the Eurasian Steppe, Turkistan or Siberia, don't you ever think that we could've done that '''multiple times''' in '''500 years''', but well-known and well-documented, creditable Ottoman Tolerance or Ottoman Peace was in ''force''. Russians Christianized and Russified all of the descendants of ancient Turkic peoples around [[Pontic-Caspian Steppe]] and Ukraine. They could make us believe that Crimea was always Slavic for sure, because today the majority is Russian there (!), but no, all of Caspian Steppes and Southern Ukraine was fully Turkic until Russians came and took those regions and Slavicize and Russify by force quickly. Crimea was occupied by Russians circa 1800 AD. Crimea's heavy majority was Crimean Tatar but only in 100 years, they got assimilated, forced, massacred and in the end in 1944, they were completely deported by the satan Stalin into the various regions of Turkistan (they partially returned back to their homelandafter satanic union of Soviet Russia destroyed itself, although there were multiple bureaucratic blocks made by Ukrainians for their return). Since 1800s, after Russians invaded Crimea and started to massacre Turkic people there, Crimean Turks (Tatars) fled to Anatolia to survive, and today 3,500,000 of Crimean Tatars live in Turkey but only 500,000 live outside Anatolia, today Crimea's population is 2,000,000 but only 250,000 of them is Crimean Tatar and rest is mostly Russian, as a result of assimilation and Russification process since 1800s. You cannot imagine what Russians did to descendants of Turkic peoples such as Khazars in the Caucasus, Bulgars in the Idel-Ural steppes, indigenous Turks of Siberia and Kazakhstan etc. Modern day Kazakhstan population is 30% Russian, when we look at history we see Russians in Kazakhstan right? NO! Ofcourse. Kazakhs and Kyrgyz are Mongols who got Turkified (see: [[Zhuz]] to see who Kazakhs, Kyrgyz and some of Uzbeks descended from, mostly Mongols of Genghis era) that's why they look so Mongolian. The Turkic peoples fled from them after a series of lost wars against them, one of them were blond-looking original Cumans and Kipchaks, and ofcourse, the Oghuz people who founded later Azerbaijani and Anatolian duchies or [[beyliks]]. On the other hand, Khazars, Cumans-Kipchaks, Bulgars etc. all Western Turks including [[Western Turkic Khaganate]] were told as blonde and white. That's why it was easy to assimilate blonde Turks into Russian by force because they have nearly no difference than Russians, it was hard to decide. So today we don't know and we can't determine the number of fully-assimilated Turkic peoples who became "Russian". There are only a few people left in the anciently most populous Bulgar Turkic area called [[Idel-Ural]], but even there, there were a lot of assimilation works. Today only 10-12 million Turkic people live there, who collectively descended from Bulgars or Ogurs and Kipchakized, like the ones who fled to Seljuk Anatolia and became Oghuz in the vicinity of Bolkar or Bolgar Mountains of [[Taurus Mountains|Taurus Mountainous Range]]. There was no Slav people in the Kuban area for sure that place was full of Turks but today there is no Turkic people there, none, except [[Kumyks]] and [[Balkars]].
::Now look back to Balkans after 500 years of Muslim rule of Turks. Even those who chose Islam, don't even speak Turkish, in 500 years, 500, 5 centuries, '''half a [[millennia]]''', half a thousand-year, half a 1000-year. Romania's population is 20 million, Greece is 10 million, Bulgaria is 7 million, Serbia is 7 million, Croatia is 4 million, Bosnia is 3.5 million, Albania is 3 million, Macedonia is 2 million, and Kosova is 1.8 million, all of them still speak their own language, still practice their own religion, no force was applied upon them, contrarily like 1463 ahdname made by Mehmed the Conqueror after Bosnian Conquest, they were made free to practice or speak whatever they like, here is the ahdname: [https://www.ottomansouvenir.com/General/the_ahdname_of_sultan_mehmetthe_conqueror.htm The first human rights document which was in force 324 years before the American Constitution]. This was made in the age where Muslims or non-Christians of places like Spain etc. were forcefully, brutally converted to Christianity in those ages (only an example, you can just Google “inquisition torture devices”). Even from the brutal torture by Christians in 1492, the Ottoman Turks saved Muslims and Jews from places like Spain and Portugal, see it on: [[Bayezid II#Jewish_and_Muslim_immigration|how Bayezid II saved Muslims and Jews from the long-ran Christian torture]]. After seeing the rule was so tolerated and peaceful, comparing to pre-Ottoman harsh rule, some of Balkan peoples converted to Islam by their own will, which are only Albanians and Bosniaks. [[User:Karak1lc1k|<b style="font-variant:small-caps;border:2px solid #d32730;padding:0 9px;background:linear-gradient(#33ccff,#139a57);color:#ffcc33;border-radius:6px">𐰴𐰺𐰀:𐰆𐰍𐰺 · Karakylchyg</b>]] 05:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:::Because you refuse to listen ([[WP:IDIDNOTHEARTHAT]] or collaborate with another editor I have reported you [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Volgabulgari|here]]. If you have a reason to account for your behavior address your remarks there.


Ok Bulgarian 😹👎 [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 17:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
: [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
|decline=Procedurally declined. Please only make one request at a time. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 23:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)}}[[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:28, 10 May 2023 (UTC)


* Despite your {{tq|pledge to regain your trust through my future actions}}, I have just blocked {{checkuser|Hunogur}} as another attempt to evade your current block. At this point, I am not inclined to accept your unblock request. I would refer you to [[Wikipedia:Standard offer]] if you would like to be unblocked in the future. [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 21:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
== Warning ==
*:I've attempted to initiate communication with you over the course of several days, addressing request topics related to Chuvash Studies and Volgabulgari. Still, I've not received any response from you during this extended period. I suspect that if you weren't subject to a ban under the username "Hunogur," you may still not have provided a reply. I am even sure about that. No, I will not asking you anything. Decline my request and stop talking with me in my page. @[[User:Mz7|Mz7]] [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 09:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


== O7 ==
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{{unblock|{{unblock reviewed |1= [[User:Sir_Sputnik|Sir_Sputnik]] (regarding your decline reason) The problem is, I didn't know what "socking" or "sockpuppet" meant until I met him. I requested an unblock, but he ignored me for weeks. Then I created another account and edited something irrelevant to the page where I was blocked. He replied and said that he banned this account as well. Thanks for him to saving Wikipedia from vandals like me. First of all, you are accusing me of "socking," but my edits weren't biased, and I didn't edit the page where I was banned. I wasn't sure if I was personally banned until I got banned again. It seems that he will ban me no matter what I do. If I had known this, why would I edit pages that I had actively contributed to with my old account? Secondly, I really want to contribute to Wikipedia. If you look at the accounts I've been banned with, none of the contributions were disruptive or biased except maybe first ones but I apologized about them. I thought Beshogur deleting my edits because he didn't trust my account then I wanted to use other account. It's so stressful to talk about this issue.I won't be very active again, but I still want to legally contribute to Wikipedia, especially regarding Chuvash culture, language, and related pages. I also want to edit contents about ancient books. I made important edits to Chuvash and Bulgar pages. I want to do it more. If you decide to unblock me, you can watch my moves for months. I will not disappoint you. I apologize for all my mistakes, and now I'm requesting an unblock. |decline = You are blocked for [[WP:Sock|abusing multiple accounts]]. This was confirmed by a [[WP:check user]]. That has nothing to do with bias. There is no excuse for evading your block. [[User:Deepfriedokra|-- Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 15:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)}}
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Why are Chuvash Studies and Hunoghur still banned if their edits have no connection to the reason for own block? If this is not solely about biased edits, then what is the justification for their continued suspension? Moreover, if the intention is to ban all accounts associated with my IP address, how can it be claimed that Wikipedia is a platform that upholds freedom of speech? Weird.

== Hungarian related topics ==

Hi [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]]!

I see you edited many Hungarian related articles unreasonably removing a lot of Hungarian related contents. Or your explanation was only "not true", by you? Could you tell me why do you do this?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hungarian_prehistory&diff=prev&oldid=1144257931&diffmode=source] "propaganda" what? I can show you a vast amount of old sources which states this.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cumans&diff=prev&oldid=1148143487] I restored when you unreasonably removed a huge content.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cumans&diff=prev&oldid=1149650221&diffmode=source] You removed the [[Kuns]], who are the settled Cumans in Hungary, why?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onogurs&diff=prev&oldid=1150339765&diffmode=source] Well many historian works talk about the connection, Ugric is just a language term. For example, I think we cannot determine the origin history of an Afro-American person in New York from the English language. According to genetic studies Hungarian conquerors were a quite diverse groups. Btw the genetic of Hungarians are very complex, I see 3 main components in the Hungarian genetic: lot of local Carpathian Basin Bronze Age samples + lot of Iron Age Scythian folk samples from the whole Eurasian steppe (Scythian, Sarmatian, Avar, Hungarian conqueror, Hun, Saka) + German and Slav. Btw my family made a personal DNA tests, and several members has genetic matches with Hun samples from Carpathian Basin, Asian Hun, Asian Scythian, Asian Scythian, Sarmatian, Avar samples.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Hungarians&diff=prev&oldid=1150344554&diffmode=source] From where do you get the location? Pseudosciency by who? Any reliable source for your claim?
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[[User:OrionNimrod|OrionNimrod]] ([[User talk:OrionNimrod|talk]]) 10:52, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hungarian_prehistory&diff=prev&oldid=1144257931&diffmode=source <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>] This based on Hunor and Magor legend which is unscentific claims of medieval Hungary to link themselves with Scythians (a nation died over 2000 years before Magyars) and Huns which is no any modern scholars accept relation with Magyars and Huns.
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cumans&diff=prev&oldid=1148143487&diffmode=visual <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>] Cuman page died with history of Hungary. I simplified. I don't think anyone wants to read too long Hungarian history in Cuman page. Interestingly, there was only Hungarian history although Cumans were in closely relationships with Georgian, Seljuk and Byzantine.
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cumans&diff=prev&oldid=1149650221&diffmode=source <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] I was the one who cited Kuns in the first place in here. I also made huge part of Kun page. I don't think they are officially an ethnic group so i removed back.
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Onogurs&diff=prev&oldid=1150339765&diffmode=source <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>] So you're claiming Magyars are Ugric-speaking Onoghurs? Nice theory but we cannot prove. Turkic origin of Hungarians is a minority theory.
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_Hungarians&diff=prev&oldid=1150344554&diffmode=source <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>] Hello, did you read the source? Bashkirs are a Turkic ethnic group. "Magyars speak with Bashkirs and they understand each other" what do you mean by that? Are you trying to understand why I removed. If there's any academic source behing these Turkified Hungarians or Ugranzied Turkic peoples I'd like to see. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:05, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
::'''Hun (Tian Shan)'''
::Tags
:: ----
::'''Date:''' AD 260–570
::'''Y-DNA:''' E-V22, N-TAT, Q-L713, R, R-S23592(x2)
::'''mtDNA:''' A1a, C4b1, D4j5, F1b1+@152, G2a1, G2a1d2, H13a2a, H6b2, H7b, K2a5, M10a1+16129, N9a9, U5b2a1a2
::'''Location:''' Kyrgyzstan
::'''Research:''' [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0094-2 See]
::'''Sample(s):''' DA100, DA104, DA385, DA52, DA65, DA66, DA69, DA72, DA73, DA74, DA80, DA82, DA96
::Genetic Profile
:: ----
::'''European Hunter-Gatherer :37.0%'''
::'''Amur River Hunter-Gatherer :31.4%'''
::'''Zagrosian Neolithic Farmer :14.0%'''
::'''Anatolian Neolithic Farmer :13.2%'''
::'''Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer :4.4%'''
::DISTANCE
::POPULATION
::5.039
::Bashkir (Baimaksky)
::5.142
::Bashkir
::5.180
::Siberian Tatar (Yalutorovsky)
::5.381
::Bashkir (Kugarchinsky)
::5.945
::Bashkir (Miyakinsky)
::6.374
::Uzbek (Khorezm)
::6.497
::Siberian Tatar (Tomsk)
::6.768
::Uzbek (Tashkent)
::7.050
::Uzbek
::7.682
::Crimean Tatar (Steppe) [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
::'''Magyar Commoner (Conquest Period)'''
::Tags
:: ----
::'''Date:''' AD 900–1000
::'''Y-DNA:''' G2a2b2a1a1a2a1, R1a1a1b1a3a2b2b1~, R1b1a1b1b3a2
::'''mtDNA:''' C4a1, C5b1a, T2c1d1, U4a
::'''Location:''' Hungary
::'''Research:''' [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982222007321 See]
::'''Sample(s):''' HMSZ231, HMSZ88, SH103, SZA52
::Genetic Profile
:: ----
::'''European Hunter-Gatherer :30.8%'''
::'''Anatolian Neolithic Farmer :29.2%'''
::'''Amur River Hunter-Gatherer :27.2%'''
::'''Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer :7.4%'''
::'''Zagrosian Neolithic Farmer :5.4%'''
::DISTANCE
::POPULATION
::3.654
::Crimean Tatar (Steppe)
::3.681
::Bashkir (Miyakinsky)
::4.185
::Lipka Tatar
::6.809
::Turkmen
::6.999
::Turkmen (Uzbekistan)
::7.088
::Kazan Tatar
::7.395
::Uzbek (Khorezm)
::7.549
::Besermyan
::8.021
::Bashkir
::8.041
::Uzbek (Tashkent) [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:25, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:I deeply thank you for genetic proximity of MyTrueAncestry. According to this page just want to remind you as a Volga Bulgarian I am related to Scottish dukes. As much as I am Scottish, Hungarians are that much Scythian and Hun. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:21, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:'''Hun (Carpathian Basin)'''
:Tags
: ----
:'''Date:''' AD 400–500
:'''Y-DNA:''' R1a1a1b2a2a3c~, R1a1a1b2a2a3c2~
:'''mtDNA:''' D4j12, M7c1a1a1
:'''Location:''' Hungary
:'''Research:''' https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abe4414
:'''Resarch''' '''2''': https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982222007321
:'''Sample(s):''' MSG1, VZ12673
:Genetic Profile
: ----
:'''Amur River Hunter-Gatherer :76.4%'''
:'''European Hunter-Gatherer :14.6%'''
:'''Zagrosian Neolithic Farmer :6.0%'''
:'''Southeast Asian Neolithic Farmer :1.4%'''
:'''Yellow River Neolithic Farmer :0.8%'''
:'''Natufian Hunter-Gatherer :0.4%'''
:'''Ancient Ancestral South Indian :0.4%'''
:DISTANCE
:POPULATION
:2.651
:Kalmyk
:3.076
:Mongol (Mongolia)
:5.750
:Buryat
:6.242
:Altaian
:8.483
:Kyrgyz (China)
:8.595
:Kyrgyz
:10.532
:Kyrgyz (Tajikistan)
:10.670
:Khakass
:11.239
:Oroqen
:11.285
:Salar (China) [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
::1.
::Many today's Hungarians made personal genetic test, and they have huge Scythian+Sarmatian genomes matches, like myself and my family (I did test) (my family also have many Carpathian Basin Hun, Asian Hun, Asian Scythian, Saka, Avar, Hungarian conqueror sample matches) you can see the average result of MyTrueAncestry site and the closest samples to the Hungarin king DNA which is science. Ancient Mongolia was multiethnic.
::Hunor and Magor legend was much later recorded when Byzantine, German, Italian, etc sources, claimed the Hungarians are Huns, Avars and Scythians, but it does not matter if is ture or not (seems true according genetics), it is fact that the Scythian-Hungarian relationship was claimed in medieval sources, so you removed this fact. Why?
::The Hungarian state founder ruling Hungarian royal family claimed that they are the descendant of Attila, King of the Huns. Old sources also claimed Attila and the Huns were Scythians and recent genetis studies confirmed the Scythians played a key role to form the Asian Hun empire. According to the genetic studies, Asian Hun haplotypes matched with medieval Hungarian kings, which indicate the persistence of some Asian Hun paternal lineages in the gene pool of early Hungarian conquerors. The genetic studies suggest that some modern subclades, those related to Avars or Hungarian conquerors became first integrated among Scythians. The Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian conqueror elite and belonged to the branch that was observed in Asian Hun samples.
::The Scythian tribes moved east, archeologists found a lot of blonde mummies in the Tarim Basin in Western China. The Asian Scythians played a key role in the formation of the Asian Hun Empire. The predominantly European-looking Asian Scythians merged with the local population in East Asia and southern Siberia, followed by other European Sarmatians during the Asian Hun (Xiongnu) period, later Alan elements. The Asian Hun Empire had a civil war and the losing Xiongnu tribes belonged largely to the Europid anthropological type who were displaced to Central Asia in the first century. Expanding to the west they integrated the related Sarmatian tribes and mixed with Sakas, and then they suddenly emerged as European Huns. Genetic continuity is detected between Xiongnu and European Huns.
::According to the recent genetic studies (and many international, non Hungarian genetic studies) the Arpad dynasty had Hun connections. And genetic is science. Those are very prestigous international science journals. Helyion for example Heliyon is a very prestigious Q1 ranked journal, a top ranked journal where only 17% of the articles are accepted.
::* The genetic origin of Huns, Avars, and conquering Hungarians: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(22)00732-1
::* Genetic evidence suggests a sense of family, parity and conquest in the Xiongnu Iron Age nomads of Mongolia: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-020-02209-4 ''“East Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian Conqueror elite and very likely belonged to the branch that was observed in our Xiongnu samples. Moreover, haplogroups Q1a and N1a were also major components of these nomadic groups, reinforcing the view that Huns (and thus Avars and Hungarian invaders) might derive from the Xiongnu as was proposed until the eighteenth century but strongly disputed since.”''
::* Xiongnu Y-DNA connects Huns & Avars to Scytho-Siberians: https://indo-european.eu/2020/08/xiongnu-ancestry-connects-huns-avars-to-scytho-siberians/ The study is confirming the presence of Andronovo or Scytho-Siberian ancestry in the Asian Huns. Moreover, these haplotypes also matched those of ancient Hungarian rulers, which indicate the persistence of some Asian Hun paternal lineages in the gene pool of early Hungarian conquerors. The database search also revealed a shared haplotype between a Hun person in the cemetry and King Béla III of Hungary (1172–1196) as well as a matching haplotype between an another Asian Hun person in the cemetry and another male individual found in the Royal Basilica in Hungary where King Béla III was buried. More Asian Hun individuals also carried haplotypes similar to those carried by the 10th century Hungarian conquerors and by 7–8th century Avar individuals. The genetic study suggests that some modern subclades, those related to Avars or Hungarian Conquerors became first integrated among Scythians. The Eurasian R1a subclades R1a1a1b2a-Z94 and R1a1a1b2a2-Z2124 were a common element of the Hun, Avar and Hungarian conqueror elite and belonged to the branch that was observed in Asian Hun samples. Moreover, similar haplogroups were also major components of these groups, reinforcing the view that Huns, Avars and Hungarian conquerors derive from the Asian Huns as was proposed until the 18th century and declared in medieval documents.
::2.
::Cumans and Hungarians had a lot of history together, battles, events, settlements etc, Hungarian king also had the King of Cumania title, I think this is not your duty to decide what the readers wants to read. In Wiki we show knowledge and information.
::3. [[Kuns]] were Cumans, so they are clearly related. So it is nonsene that you remove from the related section. They were a separate ethnic in Hungary, many regions named after him. But later they assimilated. Even in the 18th century Cuman language text was recorded in Hungary.
::4. Hungarian genetic is complex, many tribes became "Hungarians" in the Carpathian Basin. Onogurs could be part of it as many historians suggests. People did not evaporate: By 568 the [[Pannonian Avars|Avars]], under Khagan [[Bayan I]] established an empire in the [[Pannonian Basin|Carpathian Basin]] that lasted for 250 years. Related peoples from the east arrived in the [[Avar Khaganate|Avar Kaganate]] several times: around 595 the [[Kutrigurs]], and then around 670 the [[Onogurs]].<ref name=":8">{{Cite book |last=Szabados |first=György |title=Népek és kultúrák a Kárpát-medencében |year=2016 |isbn=978-615-5209-56-7 |language=Hungarian |trans-title=Peoples and cultures in the Carpathian Basin |chapter=Vázlat a magyar honfoglalás Kárpát-medencei hátteréről |trans-chapter=Outline of the background of the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin |chapter-url=http://real.mtak.hu/46728/1/Szabados_2016_Mesterhazy_75_kotet_u.pdf}}</ref> Avars also assimilated, like my family has many local Avar genomes according to mytrueancestry. Just in today's Hungary it excavated more than 80 000 Avar graves and in the late graves the later family members were buried in Hungarian style clothes.
::[[File:Fuldai évkönyvek 2.jpg|thumb]]
::5. We are talking about the location. You rewrote the location, any source for that? You just rewrote contents whitout sources. Wikipedia need reliable academic sources to strengthen claims.
::Genetic test of Hungarian king shows the location: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-020-0683-z [[User:OrionNimrod|OrionNimrod]] ([[User talk:OrionNimrod|talk]]) 11:57, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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== Göktürks to Türks ==

Hello, I value your opinion on this move request. The move request is about the title changing of Göktürks to its original form Türks. There are people who oppose and who support as their opinion, replying to the section, I would like to have your opinion there on the talk page of [[Göktürks]]. The title of the section on its talk page is [[Talk:Göktürks#Requested_move_19_April_2023|Requested move 19 April 2023 (Göktürks)]]. [[User:Karak1lc1k|<b style="font-variant:small-caps;border:2px solid #d32730;padding:0 9px;background:linear-gradient(#33ccff,#139a57);color:#ffcc33;border-radius:6px">𐰴𐰺𐰀:𐰆𐰍𐰺 · Karakylchyg</b>]] 19:41, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

:Hello, thank you for request. Here are my opinions and some factors to consider:
:Term "Gokturk" was first used in the 19th century by Western scholars (Russian and German) such as Hermann von Prittwitz in "Die Skythen und Türken in Zentralasien" (The Scythians and Turks in Central Asia) they were studying the history of Central Asia and the Turkic peoples. The problem is these people want to divide Turkish and Gokturk because they don't want to confuse readers who many associate Gokturks with modern Turkish population or think they are directly related.
:But a century later, in 19th century a German scholar named Julius von Klaproth invented the term "Turkic" and the term started widely use in 20th century, especially during USSR. Today, we don't need to divide ancient Turks as Gokturks because term Turkish already meaning Anatolian Turk and we have a daily used word Turkic.
:Today we know that no one will confuse them with Anatolian Turks, worth noting that while the term "Gokturk" was not used by the Gokturks themselves, it has become a widely accepted and commonly used term in academic circles to describe this historical period and the people and culture associated with it. So, we can historically inaccurate. They called themselves Turks or Turuks in Orkhon inscriptions.
:I don't think it should be a problem since Iranic peoples of Iran also using simple term Iranian despite having different Iranic nationalities (Baloch, Lur, Kurd, Pashtun etc ). In Wikipedia, there are count as Iranian peoples not Iranic peoples. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 11:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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== Can you explain this edit? ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuvash_language&diff=prev&oldid=1151727670]
Why do you edit same as this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuvash_language&diff=prev&oldid=1151695697 blocked ip user?]. Also this guy {{user|Kamista}} has put same thing you discussed on my talk page (Cuman/Kuman name of Crimean Tatars). + I don't see anything about "Turkified Finno-Ugric language". Can you explain this as well. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 14:24, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

:Discussed and asked help. You violated the page by reverting the source. All things were mentioned. You are no different than people who banned Kara Oghur. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 14:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
:"doesn't mention such thing"
:*The distinct character of Chuvash and its relation with the [[Finno-Permic languages|Finnic languages]] formerly led some scholars to think that Chuvash is a [[Turkification|Turkified]] [[Finno-Ugric languages|Finno-Ugric]] [[Uralic languages|(Uralic)]] language while modern scholars generally believe it's an [[Oghuric languages|Oghuric]] language*
:"27.2 Historical connections: genealogy and contact Early scholarship from the 18th century associated Chuvash with the Uralic languages, being unable to disentangle complicated areal phenomena in the Volga-Kama region (see, e.g., language groupings in Pallas 1787–1789). The Turkic origin of Chuvash was proposed no later than by Klaproth in 1828 and convincingly proved by Schott in 1841. In 1863, Feizkhanov managed to read three grave epitaphs in the Volga Bulghar language based on his knowledge of the contemporary Chuvash. Strong arguments relating Chuvash to Volga Bulghar were summarized by Ašmarin in 1902; since then, the Volga Bulghar → Chuvash linguistic continuity has gained general acceptance in the field."
:https://iling-ran.ru/savelyev/2020_chuvash_and_the_bulgharic_languages.pdf [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 14:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
::This is so obsolete source. See [[WP:AGEMATTERS]], while still doesn't mention in that way, and stop personal attacks. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 15:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
:::Sure. Not reliable, Beshoghur. That's why you blocked my and my friend's account and revert literally everything we did even in other Wikipedia pages which were irrelevant. Thanks for being a Wikipedia knight. Karak1l1c was right. Funny that I thought you were a friendly editor. Get out my page please, and do not add no more topic. I can't edit anymore, so it wouldn't be neccesary. Have fun in LA.
:::"'''''This is a draft version of a chapter that appears in Rabbeets, M. and A, Savelyes (nd). The Oxford Guide to the Troian Languages (OUP, 2020)'',"''' [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 16:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
::::So you accept your meatpuppetry? [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 16:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
::::By discussed I was talking about Karak1lc1k who is already banned. Get the hell out of page. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 16:37, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
:Revert the edit if you have any dignity. You are violating page for no reason. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 14:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
::{{ping|Beshogur}} Why is Savelyev's chapter in the OUP volume obsolete? It's a gem! Or maybe you meant something else... Anyway, I'm all for adding some more details about the areal contact phenomena in the Volga-Kama region, but @Volgabulgari, please be faithful to the source. Let's cite things like "Contrary to a commonly cited misconception, the number of loanwords of substratum Uralic origin in Proto-Chuvash as revealed so far is not large at all" (Savelyev 2020:463).
::{{tq|That's why you blocked my and my friend's account}}. Listen, @Volgabulgari: @Beshogur is not an admin, and not in the position to block anyone. They can only file reports to the admin's noticeboard, and it is up to the admins' (usually guided by wider community input) to decide. Also, there is no block in the log of your account[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AVolgabulgari]. So what account are you referring to? –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 20:51, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
:::I was talking about Karak1l1c and Kamista. I was editing first Bulgarian empire and mailed Karak1l1c if he can help me to do some revision in [[First Bulgarian Empire|First Bulgarian empire]]. He got into edit war because he added "initially Bulgarian Khanate." with dozens of sources. Bulgarians didn't like it and argued with him. Then he got banned because of swears. There is a video of him explaining everything in his own language. I believe that's also first language of user @[[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]].
:::<nowiki>https://youtu.be/iZb9kKqGguk</nowiki>
:::What I'm asking is unban Kamista if possible and please undo unlid reverts in [[Crimean Tatars]]. It was for no reason. Edit was done months ago. Someone just got mad and reverted everything for no reason. He is acting like moderator of Wikipedia. That's why I thought he is a mod or smth.
:::I said something like "Former scholars used to believe that however modern scholars generally agree it's an Oghuric language" it's perfectly true and many enyclopedia, including Britannica and few scholars repated the same information. It goes against his own agenda.
:::I can understand why everyone is so suspicious to Turkish users. So many of them acting like dictators like politically motivated instead of you. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 02:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
::::Asking for help is against wiki policies. Kamista is banned for ban evasion. I will check those things again and restore if possible. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 08:35, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
:::I will check the source again sorry. I meant the content is from 19th century. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 08:37, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

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:Thank you, didn't check who make it in the first place but like i wrote like half of these the paragraphs myself. [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 02:26, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
== Blocked as a sockpuppet ==
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:Dear, @[[User:Mz7|Mz7]]
:I am writing to request an '''unblock of my account''' on Wikipedia. My account was recently blocked due to "''Sockpuppet''", but I believe that the block was unjustified and would like to explain my position.
:Firstly, I would like to apologize for any actions or statements that may have violated Wikipedia's policies. The problem is I am both unaware of "Sockpuppet concept" and i have zero intention to do political edits. Also, i'd like to note i don't use these accounts for political needs. Beofore i get banned I wasn't even know what sockpuppet means. I understand that the use of multiple accounts can be a violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I want to assure you that I did not intend to deceive or manipulate the editing process in any way. I created the second account in order to point out Oghuric/Hunno-Bulgar languages. I thought user Beshoghur and Austronesier deleting my edits because they hated me. That's why I wanted to use another account. Still, Kamista is older than this so essentially i did not create account for edit.
:Secondly, I would like to provide additional context and evidence that I believe may shed light on the situation. For instance, I've been editing Chuvash page for 1-2 years. It has still my contributions a lot. And they weren't bad. I'd like to do more. Most of my edits deleted because I banned but they were pretty academic and accurate. For instance, [[User:ActivelyDisinterested]] just deleted my edits even though it was better than older one.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuvash_people&oldid=1153123665] user Nishidani also deleted me edits in Khazars just because I banned. But there is no any single misleading in the page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khazars&oldid=1152618179 Please look] If you remove my ban I'll revert these and probably be unactive for a very very long time if it's not forever. I see that my actions were misguided and not in keeping with Wikipedia's standards for transparency and accountability. I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and am confident that I can make positive contributions to the website by removing by reverts and I'll go.
:I never made an '''unblock request''' until now. Because I understood it was something about rules. And even though I'm not very well aware of them, I accepted this block. However, deleting my other accounts for editing contents is definetly unjust. It was for nothing. And I am here for unblock request for this account. Not because I'd like to do more edits but because I want to remove the meaningless reverts.
:Have a nice day.
: [[User:Volgabulgari|Volgabulgari]] ([[User talk:Volgabulgari#top|talk]]) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)}}

Latest revision as of 20:00, 23 May 2023

Blocked as a sockpuppet

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Wikipedia's technical logs indicate that this user account has been or may be used abusively as a sockpuppet of User:Kamista per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bulgaryani. It has been blocked indefinitely from editing to prevent abuse.
Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.
If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you should review the guide to appealing blocks, and then appeal your block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}}. Note that anything you post in your unblock request will be public, so you may alternatively use the Unblock Ticket Request System to submit an appeal if it contains information that must be private.
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Mz7 (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Dear, @Mz7
I am writing to request an unblock of my account on Wikipedia. My account was recently blocked due to "Sockpuppet", but I believe that the block was unjustified and would like to explain my position.
Firstly, I would like to apologize for any actions or statements that may have violated Wikipedia's policies. The problem is I am both unaware of "Sockpuppet concept" and i have zero intention to do political edits. Also, i'd like to note i don't use these accounts for political needs. Beofore i get banned I wasn't even know what sockpuppet means. I understand that the use of multiple accounts can be a violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I want to assure you that I did not intend to deceive or manipulate the editing process in any way. I created the second account in order to point out Oghuric/Hunno-Bulgar languages. I thought user Beshoghur and Austronesier deleting my edits because they hated me. That's why I wanted to use another account. Still, Kamista is older than this so essentially i did not create account for edit.
Secondly, I would like to provide additional context and evidence that I believe may shed light on the situation. For instance, I've been editing Chuvash page for 1-2 years. It has still my contributions a lot. And they weren't bad. I'd like to do more. Most of my edits deleted because I banned but they were pretty academic and accurate. For instance, User:ActivelyDisinterested just deleted my edits even though it was better than older one.[1] user Nishidani also deleted me edits in Khazars just because I banned. But there is no any single misleading in the page. Please look If you remove my ban I'll revert these and probably be unactive for a very very long time if it's not forever. I see that my actions were misguided and not in keeping with Wikipedia's standards for transparency and accountability. I have reviewed Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and am confident that I can make positive contributions to the website by removing by reverts and I'll go.
I never made an unblock request until now. Because I understood it was something about rules. And even though I'm not very well aware of them, I accepted this block. However, deleting my other accounts for editing contents is definetly unjust. It was for nothing. And I am here for unblock request for this account. Not because I'd like to do more edits but because I want to remove the meaningless reverts.
Have a nice day.
Volgabulgari (talk) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Given that you were still socking, during the pendency of this request, the block is clearly still necessary. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Request of an unblock

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Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Dear, @Mz7

I would like to offer a sincere apology once again for my past actions involving sockpuppetry. As an individual who values the principles of academic integrity and transparency, I understand that my behavior was completely unacceptable and violated the trust that the community has placed in me. I guarantee that after some edits I will not use Wikipedia anymore for a very long time if it's not forever.

In past days, I read sockpuppetry article in Wikipedia, I have not only deceived others, but also compromised the integrity of the content on this platform. I am deeply sorry for the harm and disruption that my actions may have caused to the community.

I fully understand that my actions were in direct violation of Wikipedia's policies, and I am committed to never engaging in such behavior again. Moving forward, I will abide by the highest standards of integrity and professionalism in all my interactions on this platform. If you give me a chance, you can check for my last edits for a week, then I will be inactive or dead.

I would like to express my deepest apologies to the Wikipedia community and pledge to regain your trust through my future actions. Thank you for your attention and understanding. I don't want to create new accounts, editing same thing. Right now I am "personally banned" as another admin told.

"Instead of creating new accounts to edit, you need to successfully request an unblock first."

Volgabulgari (talk) 10:56, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedurally declined. Please only make one request at a time. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Volgabulgari (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Despite your pledge to regain your trust through my future actions, I have just blocked Hunogur (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) as another attempt to evade your current block. At this point, I am not inclined to accept your unblock request. I would refer you to Wikipedia:Standard offer if you would like to be unblocked in the future. Mz7 (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I've attempted to initiate communication with you over the course of several days, addressing request topics related to Chuvash Studies and Volgabulgari. Still, I've not received any response from you during this extended period. I suspect that if you weren't subject to a ban under the username "Hunogur," you may still not have provided a reply. I am even sure about that. No, I will not asking you anything. Decline my request and stop talking with me in my page. @Mz7 Volgabulgari (talk) 09:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

O7

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Volgabulgari (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Sir_Sputnik (regarding your decline reason) The problem is, I didn't know what "socking" or "sockpuppet" meant until I met him. I requested an unblock, but he ignored me for weeks. Then I created another account and edited something irrelevant to the page where I was blocked. He replied and said that he banned this account as well. Thanks for him to saving Wikipedia from vandals like me. First of all, you are accusing me of "socking," but my edits weren't biased, and I didn't edit the page where I was banned. I wasn't sure if I was personally banned until I got banned again. It seems that he will ban me no matter what I do. If I had known this, why would I edit pages that I had actively contributed to with my old account? Secondly, I really want to contribute to Wikipedia. If you look at the accounts I've been banned with, none of the contributions were disruptive or biased except maybe first ones but I apologized about them. I thought Beshogur deleting my edits because he didn't trust my account then I wanted to use other account. It's so stressful to talk about this issue.I won't be very active again, but I still want to legally contribute to Wikipedia, especially regarding Chuvash culture, language, and related pages. I also want to edit contents about ancient books. I made important edits to Chuvash and Bulgar pages. I want to do it more. If you decide to unblock me, you can watch my moves for months. I will not disappoint you. I apologize for all my mistakes, and now I'm requesting an unblock.

Decline reason:

You are blocked for abusing multiple accounts. This was confirmed by a WP:check user. That has nothing to do with bias. There is no excuse for evading your block. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

-- Deepfriedokra Why are Chuvash Studies and Hunoghur still banned if their edits have no connection to the reason for own block? If this is not solely about biased edits, then what is the justification for their continued suspension? Moreover, if the intention is to ban all accounts associated with my IP address, how can it be claimed that Wikipedia is a platform that upholds freedom of speech? Weird.

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