Wikipedia talk:Notability (films)/November 2021 Draft RFC

RFC: Rewrite Guideline on Future Films

Which of the following should be done with respect to the guideline on future films, for films that are in or have completed production but not been released?

Option 1 – No change. Leave as is.
Option 2 – Language to clarify that such films are only notable if significant coverage of production itself satisfies general notability.
Option 3 – Language to ease the guidelines for notability of such films.
Option 4 – Other. Please specify.

Please specify 1, 2, 3, or 4 in the Survey with a brief statement. Back-and-forth discussion may be conducted in the Threaded Discussion.

Option 2

Add the following language at the start of Future films, incomplete films, and undistributed films (NFF):

Films may be divided into three stages:
   Stage 1: Those that have not yet begun production (principal photography or animation).
   Stage 2: Those that have begun production, but have not been released.
   Stage 3: Those that have been released.

And replace the last paragraph of this section with the following language:

Films at Stage 1 are rarely, if ever, considered notable enough to qualify for a standalone article. Films at Stage 2 may qualify if principal photography has received significant coverage by independent secondary reliable sources. The following do not contribute towards notability of a film: coverage of plans for the film, and trivial mentions about the production of the film.

Discuss Option 2

Option 3

See Wikipedia:Notability (films)/November 2021 Draft RFC#Option 3

Discuss Option 3

Survey

Oppose
"Films at Stage 2 ''may'' qualify if principal photography has received [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] by independent secondary [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]."
This is a re-statement of the GNG, and if met, it means the future film's principal photography itself is notable. And linking to the essay Wikipedia:Trivial mentions provides no clarity of what a trivial mention is and creates a circular referencing, which is worse than useless. Ridiculous. Who is suggesting this? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have re-written Option 3 at Wikipedia:Notability (films)/November 2021 Draft RFC#Option 3. More eyes and polishing is required. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:54, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Threaded Discussion

Move this page to Wikipedia:Notability (films)/Draft RFC October 2021. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:24, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal options text is at Wikipedia:Notability (films)/November 2021 Draft RFC.

Discuss the options and their text here at Wikipedia talk:Notability (films)/November 2021 Draft RFC

-- SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]